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    Re: Russian Parliament Wants Ambassador Recalled

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    What can the UN do? Anything done via Security Council will be vetoed by Russia.
    Forgot about the veto thing.
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    Re: Russian Parliament Wants Ambassador Recalled

    This thread on Reddit really made me laugh.
    Canada really set a standard in 2010


    Link to discussion thread: Canada really set a standard in 2010 : AdviceAnimals

    Even Hitler waited 3 years until starting World War 2
    EDIT: Well... now i'm sad again.

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    Re: Russian Parliament Wants Ambassador Recalled

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Putin has received permission from the Russian Parliament to mobilize the country's military in the Ukraine. Parliament has also requested that the Russian Ambassador be recalled from the United States in light of President Obama's remarks yesterday.

    I guess we showed him. The President's timing on this one was all wrong.

    Putin gets permission to use military in Ukraine; parliament wants to pull ambassador in DC | Fox News

    Why are we getting involved in this?
    From Putins perspective he has everything to gain and absolutely nothing to lose here. He is not going to let Ukraine slip through his grasp and he will use troops to stop it if he has to. And no one on the planet is going to lift a finger to stop him. Good thing we are downsizing our military, calling our troops home and turning our attention inward, good has conquered evil and the world is a safe and wonderful place.

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    Re: Russian Parliament Wants Ambassador Recalled

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    I don't think we are. The POTUS is expected to comment, and position as needed to promote democracy....but this one seems to have learned the lessons of war.

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    Re: Russian Parliament Wants Ambassador Recalled

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    oh yeh? How many Global wars have we had since it was created?
    It sure as hell wasn't he UN that stopped WWIII.

    One thing did.

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    Re: Russian Parliament Wants Ambassador Recalled

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Indeed, the 2013 was a really hot year in terms of global relationships.
    2014 seems to be so.
    We're off to a great start. I dare say, there hasn't been such a fantastic start to the extinction of the human race in a long time now.


    On another, joking but not really note:
    "A russian lands in Kyiv airport. The border agent asks:
    -Nationality?
    -Russian.
    -Occupation?
    -No.... just visiting".

    Ukrainian joke. I've seen it 3x in the past 10min ,decided to sahre it with you all.

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    Re: Russian Parliament Wants Ambassador Recalled

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    We're off to a great start. I dare say, there hasn't been such a fantastic start to the extinction of the human race in a long time now.


    On another, joking but not really note:
    "A russian lands in Kyiv airport. The border agent asks:
    -Nationality?
    -Russian.
    -Occupation?
    -No.... just visiting".

    Ukrainian joke. I've seen it 3x in the past 10min ,decided to sahre it with you all.

    LOL LOL

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    Re: Russian Parliament Wants Ambassador Recalled

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Dayum.
    More than just this treaty with the US and UK, Ukraine has an agreement with NATO as well. Given that they had started the MAP (membership application process), all Ukraine has to do is make a request to NATO for assistance, even though they are not an actual member of NATO.

    In 2002 NATO and Ukraine signed and adopted the Ukraine Action Plan. Russia's reaction to this was violent. In 2010, when the recently deposed pro-Russian President of Ukraine was elected, he and the Ukrainian parliament stopped the NATO MAP, but did not withdraw completely, so technically, the MAP is still in place.

    Add to this; that Georgia is also involved in a NATO MAP, that the Russians invaded Georgia in 2008 and GW Bush had to send the 6th Fleet to the Black Sea to impose a no-fly zone over Georgia, what Georgia may do regarding requests for protection from potential spill over in this event may lead to NATO forces entering the Black Sea... and, dozens of other players such as Moldova and Romania which also have treaties with the US and UK... And lastly... Turkey which is just across the Black Sea from all this tension, is and has been for decades, a NATO member country.

    What worries me are as follows: the White House just made the announcement to reduce our military force to pre-WWII numbers; the White House put a "line" to not be crossed in Syria and did nothing when the line was crossed; the White House has allowed Russia to take over and lead Iranian nuclear negotiation; the White House bowed to Russia in relation to force in Libya and and other Middle East conflicts; the White House has bowed to Russia and removed our missile defense systems from former Soviet block regions; Vladimir Putin has stated numerous times that he wants to reform the Soviet Union and is doing everything he can do to consolidate his power and gain territorial dominance, and; now the White House is attempting to draw another line in regard to Russia which Putin is obviously laughing at in the face of the world.

    In essence, I don't feel comfortable at all that the White House has the talent, knowledge, vision or most importantly the respect of other global leaders to control this situation before it grows and gets completely out of control.

    This rings close to what those that study history will remember occurred in the Sudetenland and even Austria in the 1930's.

    History repeating itself.
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    Re: Russian Parliament Wants Ambassador Recalled

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The only thing the UN has been good for is hot air.
    I always feel the reason the UN is kinda worthless is because of the way the Security Council is set up. Whoever came up with those rules for the Security Council either has terrible long-term though processes or is very idealistic.
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    Re: Russian Parliament Wants Ambassador Recalled

    CNN/Wolf Blitzer is doing a nice job right now.
    Why did Russia give Crimea over to Ukraine in 1954?
    And the Security Council meets at the top of the hour .
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    We're off to a great start. I dare say, there hasn't been such a fantastic start to the extinction of the human race in a long time now.


    On another, joking but not really note:
    "A russian lands in Kyiv airport. The border agent asks:
    -Nationality?
    -Russian.
    -Occupation?
    -No.... just visiting".

    Ukrainian joke. I've seen it 3x in the past 10min ,decided to sahre it with you all.
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