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Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

OldWorldOrder said:
And you owe that to...American intervention? That's it?
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Our actions should have stopped with Afghanistan and Iraq. Supporting the rebels is just helping to replace one bad leader with another, leaving in it's wake, death and resentment.

We need to avoid doing the same with the Ukraine.
 
24107 said:
Its been a decade, Iraq is also still worse of than it was under saddam, al Qaeda now has a stronghold in Iraq :peace
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Keep changing topics until you find one you like. I'm confident Iraqis don't agree with you.:peace
 
Lord of Planar said:
Our actions should have stopped with Afghanistan and Iraq. Supporting the rebels is just helping to replace one bad leader with another, leaving in it's wake, death and resentment.
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Okay, that's not what I asked. Unless you're saying regional destabilization is a result of just what the US has done in the Middle East in the last ten years (maybe even less?), in which case note I disagree even more.
 
Jack Hays said:
Keep changing topics until you find one you like. I'm confident Iraqis don't agree with you.:peace
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Libya and Iraq shared similar fates, so I'm not changing the topic. Everyday there are still terrorist attacks by al qaeda in Iraq, I doubt you know what's going on. :peace
 
Lord of Planar said:
So...

Am I to understand you believe in revenge, over an incident that was never proven to be under his direction?

Doesn't sound like you are interested in justice.

The word of one man, Mustafa Abdel-Jalil, claiming Gaddafi ordered it... That because a prominent part of the restructuring? maybe he had an agenda.
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It is certain Qaddhafi ordered the operation.:peace
 
24107 said:
Libya and Iraq shared similar fates, so I'm not changing the topic. Everyday there are still terrorist attacks by al qaeda in Iraq, I doubt you know what's going on. :peace
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Then you would be wrong.:lamo
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Okay, that's not what I asked. Unless you're saying regional destabilization is a result of just what the US has done in the Middle East in the last ten years (maybe even less?), in which case note I disagree even more.
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OK, You disagree more.
 
Jack Hays said:
It is certain Qaddhafi ordered the operation.:peace
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Then I suggest you testify in some world court how you know that as fact.

How about reviving a thread that covers that topic, and show us there.
 
Jack Hays said:
I'm only guessing here, but my bet is only one of us has spent time in Iraq.:peace
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I don't believe you, your just some guy on the Internet. You could also claim to be an astronaut. :peace
 
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NIMBY said:
Ukraine and Russia is the thread.
so I'll add the weak and feckless Euros on sanctions .
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Worry about the Mexican border, don't worry about Ukraine as Ukrainians don't care about you. :peace
 
24107 said:
Worry about the Mexican border, don't worry about Ukraine as Ukrainians don't care about you. :peace
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Yes.

I wish the people concerned that we should do something over there would be more concerned about our own border issues.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Yes.

I wish the people concerned that we should do something over there would be more concerned about our own border issues.
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that's why I think most of the people on the forum are either ignorant or are actually disinformation agents. they worry more about foreign countries than they do their own.
 
As Ukrainians kissed the hands of SoS Kerry today as he brought emotional and financial relief.
I'm sure most Western Ukrainians don't think like you .
24107 said:
Worry about the Mexican border, don't worry about Ukraine as Ukrainians don't care about you.
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They're too busy making a political issue of the Mexican border, as most of them did on syria and now Ukraine .
Lord of Planar said:
Yes.

I wish the people concerned that we should do something over there would be more concerned about our own border issues.
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24107 said:
that's why I think most of the people on the forum are either ignorant or are actually disinformation agents. they worry more about foreign countries than they do their own.
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Perhaps we have broader experience of the world than you.:peace
 
Montecresto said:
It all started the same way. And dude really. The protesters turned terrorists in Syria aren't coming to get you. Relax.
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So what if they started the same way? US drones weren’t killing protesters in Syria when it started and they aren’t killing protestors in Ukraine either. If you want to argue the morality of drone strikes on real terrorists, I’m pretty sure there’s a thread for that somewhere. If you were attempting to portray the Ukrainian protestors as equivalent to terrorists who end up as US drone casualties, you failed miserably.
 
GPS_Flex said:
So what if they started the same way? US drones weren’t killing protesters in Syria when it started and they aren’t killing protestors in Ukraine either. If you want to argue the morality of drone strikes on real terrorists, I’m pretty sure there’s a thread for that somewhere. If you were attempting to portray the Ukrainian protestors as equivalent to terrorists who end up as US drone casualties, you failed miserably.
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But I wasn't trying to do that. Seems that's what you're working on. This started with me pointing out that another poster is concerned about the death of civilians until its US drone strikes killing them (not terrorists) until you polluted it. Find somebody else to pull that **** on, I'll not be playing your game.
 
Interesting link:

Crimean Premier Says Ukrainian Military Units Have Started to Surrender

The prime minister of Crimea, the autonomous Ukrainian republic seized by Russian military forces, said Tuesday that most Ukrainian military units on the Crimean Peninsula had surrendered and pledged allegiance to his pro-Russian government, and that local officials were working to speed up a referendum on independence from Ukraine.

Speaking at a news conference on Tuesday morning, Prime Minister Sergei Aksyonov said that Crimean officials were in control of the security situation, even as standoffs continued between Russian forces and Ukrainian troops at several military installations, including at a base near the Belbek airport, near Sevastopol.

“There is no safety threat to human life in Crimea,” Mr. Aksyonov said.
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24107 said:
that's why I think most of the people on the forum are either ignorant or are actually disinformation agents. they worry more about foreign countries than they do their own.
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There are other threads where you can express worry over your own country.
 
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