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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You continue to mischaracterise things. It's not "Ukraine", its some of the Ukrainians, and they started destroying public property, they toppled the government, seized the military and declared independence. You wouldn't condone that at home.
    It doesn't matter what percentage of Ukrainians feel one way or another because that is a Ukrainian problem and one for them to sort out. It does not give Russia the right to invade other countries when they have domestic problems. Using your strategy the USA would have every right to invade Mexico.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    ???

    Is your issue with people respecting international law or isn't it? Or is it about attitude toward international law? Can you please try to be consistent?
    My issue is with my country respecting international law if we are going to expect other countries to respect it and criticise them if they don't. It's very consistent. But again, at this point, Putin hasn't violated international law.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    My issue is with my country respecting international law if we are going to expect other countries to respect it and criticise them if they don't. It's very consistent. But again, at this point, Putin hasn't violated international law.
    Okay, we have one vote for Vladimir Putin to become the policeman of the world. Do we have a seconder?

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    My issue is with my country respecting international law if we are going to expect other countries to respect it and criticise them if they don't. It's very consistent. But again, at this point, Putin hasn't violated international law.
    So you don't even care about international law. It's about the US' attitude to it. That's fine, but then no one can take you seriously the next time you complain about the US violating it...because we know you don't care about it on its own anyway.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    Harper knows that Obama is not really in charge of his government...this is where the NSA revelations of a deep state existing run by private contractors and entrenched government officials, explains more about U.S. foreign policy than anything the President says or wants to do...as recently explained by former Republican official - Mike Lofgren, in an interview on Bill Moyer's show: What’s Going On Underneath the Surface of Partisan Politics Harper doesn't have to look for directions from Obama, when he knows who is wielding power over foreign policy issues.
    Amazing that it takes a Canadian to explain this to Americans.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I would say the Russians can grab Crimea with impunity, should Putin want. After all, the EU guarantees peace in Europe.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I agree with you, EU should take the lead and I feel the US should stay out of it since personally I am politically an advocate for non-interventionism but however we did sign that treaty with them so you know...
    The international order is breaking down. Iran gets an end to the sanctions and retains the ability to conduct a nuclear weapons program. Syria crosses BHO's "red line" without cost. Russia moves to stamp out the popular will in Ukraine. Etc. etc. Henry Kissinger once said there had to be a cost for opposing the US, otherwise chaos would follow. So it is.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You continue to mischaracterise things. It's not "Ukraine", its some of the Ukrainians, and they started destroying public property, they toppled the government, seized the military and declared independence. You wouldn't condone that at home.
    Whose has mischaracterised? There is no doubt a rift a mile wide between Western and Eastern Ukraine. This will no doubt fuel the war that very well may break out at 10pm tonight, and most certainly play heavily into the body count of the war. But surely you see the difference between a revolution and an invasion, yes?
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Hmm... I'm wondering how much the Snowden information influenced Putin's move.
    Really? It's quite obvious that an angry mob that started destroying public property, toppled the Ukrainian government, seized control of the military and declared independence against the wishes of at least half the rest of the Ukrainians, influenced Putins decision.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Okay, we have one vote for Vladimir Putin to become the policeman of the world. Do we have a seconder?
    Hah! I really do wish there was some way to allow everyone to experience the world that their ideology would bring. As I get older I realize most people really deserve it. :P
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    There is a lot of speculation in your post too. Mine happens to be grounded in the reality of the situation, though.

    You utterly fail to grasp the gravity of the situation in Ukraine and what it means to the world economy, and world peace.
    Really now? The world has spoken and it views the US as the biggest threat to world peace. And you are still mischaracterising Putins actions.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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