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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Why should the UK or USA take action? The Germans, Poles and French took the lead and talked bravery into the opposition's hearts. This is not a US responsibility. Of course the US and UK should help its allies. That goes without saying. But they must not take the lead.
    US signed an agreement with Ukraine to give up nukes in the 1990s for defense help. Also Ukraine is a semi-member of NATO.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Why should the UK or USA take action? The Germans, Poles and French took the lead and talked bravery into the opposition's hearts. This is not a US responsibility. Of course the US and UK should help its allies. That goes without saying. But they must not take the lead.
    If we wanted to take action what would we do? Russia has the military. Russia has the geography. All we have is obama. He is like the dog crap one accidentally steps into.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    25 Nato members in Europe which would give Russia plenty to think about.
    Not really.. cut of Natural Gas and Europeans are useless. Only good thing the EU has going is it's getting warmer.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Boy what a mess for ole Obama and Co. Will Hillary step up and say something? Will Russia yet again say suck it to Obama and the USA? Clearly this is the year of Putin, and Obama looks like a dolt. The boy can organize a fantastic community, and heck raise money, but man, this guy cannot lead and is in way over his head.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Treaty or not treaty the EU shoudl be taking the lead on this considering its the EU that Ukraine wants to remain with! Time for Merkel and company to validate this union of theirs.
    The Europeans, like Obama, will do nothing. They have enjoyed a couple of generations of relative peace and freedom but they have lost any idea of how to protect the two.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Europeans, like Obama, will do nothing. They have enjoyed a couple of generations of relative peace and freedom but they have lost any idea of how to protect the two.
    Europe and America came together for the Bosnian war don't forget that
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Obama is weak. The world knows this. Putin has been kicking his ass all over the school yard and taking his lunch money. This jerk is killing us. This would not have happened if Bush was in office. Oh, I can't wait for some dumb liberal to post about how strong Obama is and that Putin will back down. C'mon libs, tell us how Obama will save the day! He sucks.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Governor Palin, you were right and the liberals were wrong. Please come and save us from Obama:

    After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Not really.. cut of Natural Gas and Europeans are useless. Only good thing the EU has going is it's getting warmer.
    Its a global market and their is plenty of pressure the EU can administer in regards to Russia's economy. Not a game anyone wants to play.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    US signed an agreement with Ukraine to give up nukes in the 1990s for defense help. Also Ukraine is a semi-member of NATO.
    The Budapest Memorandum, if that is the document you mean, says the signatories must help the Ukraine before the UN and the country is not member of Nato.

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