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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Context View Post
    The Crimeans don't get to dictate Ukrainian foreign policy anymore than Texans get to dictate American foreign policy.
    But a bunch of armed rebels do?

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Context View Post
    Me too.



    When did the Ukrainian government invite Russian forces into the country?
    Do you think the illegally ousted President is opposed?

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Context View Post
    You think that the EU instigated the political turmoil which lead to regime change.
    Why not? The US was behind the Orange Revolution that got rid of Yanukovich in 2004 because it aligned Ukraine with pro Western policies. I think the same powers had a hand in ridding him the second time around.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Because we're America, and we're betterer than everyone else.
    That speech sound more like Russian, or better Mother Russia.
    The opposite of your sentence is what Putin has been trying to show to your president recent events.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Talking to some friends who live in Kazakhstan today and they are generally worried about what this means for the future of not just that region but all former soviet states.
    People who lived under that system of a couple of decades ago have every reason to feel fear of its return. The hierarchy in Russia, however, do not want this. I wish more ex-CIA agents from that theatre would come out and make their voices heard on this matter, but they were long ago relegated to the closet once the War on Terror began. Russia does not want to occupy any of those former states. It drained them before, and led to the collapse of the Soviet system. But, they do want stable neighbors, and preferably ones that are amicable to their desires. Seems to be the case with a lot of powerful nations, who in the end, are just using the smaller states as pawns in a greater chess game that the rest of us don't even know is being played.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    But a bunch of armed rebels do?
    Ukraine's rightful government does. Keep in mind that it was the Ukrainian parliament that ousted Yanukovych.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Context View Post
    Ukraine's rightful government does. Keep in mind that it was the Ukrainian parliament that ousted Yanukovych.
    hahahaha now it's rightful. 2 months ago it wasn't??
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    hahahaha now it's rightful. 2 months ago it wasn't??
    Well, Ukrainian elections aren't known for being pure, but I wouldn't have called it illegitimate two months ago, no.

    Why do you ask?

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    That speech sound more like Russian, or better Mother Russia.
    The opposite of your sentence is what Putin has been trying to show to your president recent events.
    I was being sarcastic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Context View Post
    Ukraine's rightful government does. Keep in mind that it was the Ukrainian parliament that ousted Yanukovych.
    Illegally. Without the required approval of the Constitutional Court. Now they're also ousting Judges from the Constitutional Court. One branch of government does not have the right to bully the other two, and we should not be supporting this type of un-democratic behavior. The rightful government of the Ukraine is headed by their "ousted" President.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Context View Post
    Well, Ukrainian elections aren't known for being pure, but I wouldn't have called it illegitimate two months ago, no.

    Why do you ask?
    I think he's pointing out American hypocrisy.

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