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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I wonder what Putin would do if UN troops were deployed in Ukraine.
    Nothing, he has what he can reasonably get. The UN will not start shooting, to remove Russian forces, so by in large Russia is there for as long as it wants
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Russia is a big seller of crude oil and natural gas. Russia also has access to the global markets. The EU almost certainly won't sanction Russia's oil and natural gas sales, as it would have a large energy gap to fill. Russia's growing trade from China also won't be impacted.

    Also, we agree that Putin is not stupid. I don't see him going beyond Crimea unless other events precipitated such a move. One example might be other sections in Ukraine trying to break away and Ukraine's using force to try to quash the separation. Another might involve some kind of Ukrainian military effort to try to reassert control over Crimea (a reckless gamble that would be certain to fail).
    Crimea will not be part of Russia and Putin will leave voluntarily or be shunned as a nation. Don 't underestimate the damage that would do. I doubt his regime will survive it.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I wonder what Putin would do if UN troops were deployed in Ukraine.
    There is no group in the world fearful of UN troops, except for underage little girls.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Crimea will not be part of Russia and Putin will leave voluntarily or be shunned as a nation. Don 't underestimate the damage that would do. I doubt his regime will survive it.
    People, fearful of any negative consequences, will soon accept it as the new normal.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There is no group in the world fearful of UN troops, except for underage little girls.
    At least it would show some unity.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    People, fearful of any negative consequences, will soon accept it as the new normal.
    Maybe in your mind but the truth will be much different. Cool heads does not signal indifference.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Maybe in your mind but the truth will be much different. Cool heads does not signal indifference.
    Russia has the best circumstances to invade the Crimea and no one can do much about it. Crimea called itself the Russian troops.
    The situation is too complicated. "They are not invading Ukraine."
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There is no group in the world fearful of UN troops, except for underage little girls.
    Resorting to sexist insults?
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Russia has the best circumstances to invade the Crimea and no one can do much about it. Crimea called itself the Russian troops.
    The situation is too complicated. "They are not invading Ukraine."
    That's not what the Ukrainian Govt. and the rest of the world is saying. They left Georgia and they will leave Crimea too.

    Russian troops have withdrawn from a Georgian town which they had occupied since a brief war between the two countries in 2008.
    Georgian officials said the Russians pulled out from Perevi, which is located just outside Georgia's breakaway South Ossetia region.
    Moscow and Tbilisi agreed after the war that their troops would move back to their pre-conflict positions.
    BBC News - Russian troops withdraw from Georgian town

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why the **** would we want to? That's what I can't figure out about the right-wingers here. What do they want to happen?
    That's easy! They don't want to intervene, because it's not our problem, but they think that Putin only invaded Crimea because Obama showed weakness in Syria - where they also don't want to intervene - by backing down and giving them what they wanted by not getting involved.

    You gotta love that consistency
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