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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Because they do. See Ukraine.
    There's not a consensus.

    A poll by the Kiev International Institute of Sociology found that 39 percent of Ukrainians want to join the EU, while 37 percent prefer closer ties with Russia. Pro-EU sentiment prevails in Kiev and western Ukraine, while the south and east, settled by ethnic Russians in tsarist times, are pro-Russia.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    What was that that a hot mic picked up when Obama whispered to Medvedev that "after the election I have more flexibility"?
    You go with that hot mic, I'll go with No Drama Obama.

    I'll go with the current hot air from a dozen GOPs undercutting the President in a new crisis, just as with Syria.

    Too bad you didn't get Romney, this could have been his 3rd war, right after Iran and Syria.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Then why does the GOP focus on the vote of ACA.
    Btw, there's a Blue-Dog named Childers in your neighboring MS running for the Senate who voted against ACA.
    Who will win the bloody GOP primary, Cochran or McDaniel ?
    Every democrat voted for the ACA.
    No Republicans voted for the ACA.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Then why does the GOP focus on the vote of ACA.
    Btw, there's a Blue-Dog named Childers in your neighboring MS running for the Senate who voted against ACA.
    Who will win the bloody GOP primary, Cochran or McDaniel ?
    If true it shows that I am right that some people will be allowed to vote against a bill if the party has enough to win without his or her vote. For the parties it is all about keeping power.

    I have no idea who will win or lose in Mississippi. It matters very little. Only winning the Article V fight can make a difference.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Try the House caucus.
    Democratic Rep. Travis Childers from Mississippi voted against the ACA.
    Once again, mister v speaks with forked tongue .
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Every democrat voted for the ACA.
    No Republicans voted for the ACA.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If true it shows that I am right that some people will be allowed to vote against a bill if the party has enough to win without his or her vote. For the parties it is all about keeping power.
    Former Rep. Childers has more integrity than that.
    This is why he is a BlueDog with a decent chance to be competitive in the Mississippi Senate race.

    I have no idea who will win or lose in Mississippi. It matters very little. Only winning the Article V fight can make a difference.
    It sure does matter.
    Do you support Sen. McConnell filibustering a Veteran's bill last week with a poison pill ?
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The emphasis is in non proliferation and ultimately elimination.
    And, again, who will enforce this??

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I decide whether or not what somebody has done to me has provoked a fight.
    Which is fine, but don't then pretend to speak for international situations.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I never said Russia would declare it independent, but Crimea itself will. Using the coup in Ukraine as a pretext, along with a regional vote. Which Russia will recognize, and then support.
    I don't see Crimean independence as being something even the Crimeans want. This whole episode is predicated on Russian culture's preoccupation with pretending to be a major world power again, and the desire of ethnic Russians in Ukraine to remain part of the Russian orbit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Perhaps you should look up the definition of conquest, simply, its the act of taking control of a people/country through the use of force, which we have done as recently as the last administration. You want to say that because we left a decade latter it wasn't a conquest?
    It wasn't a conquest because we made no plans to formally (or even informally) incorporate the territory into our system of government.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You go with that hot mic, I'll go with No Drama Obama.

    I'll go with the current hot air from a dozen GOPs undercutting the President in a new crisis, just as with Syria.

    Too bad you didn't get Romney, this could have been his 3rd war, right after Iran and Syria.
    Know Nothing Obama is more like it.

    Sarah Palin had it exactly right. Palin Mocked In 2008 For Warning Putin May Invade Ukraine If Obama Elected - Fox Nation

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