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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You are thinking of South Ossetia and Abkhazia which are culturally distinct from Georgia fought wars of independence from Georgia, and were ruled as defacto independent states from 1995 or so

    As for Crimea, I expect it will be declared independent from Ukraine and be given protection by Russia
    Just like East Osetia and Abhkasia. Yes I meant these excuses that serve as grounds not to help these countries.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yep, every country gets them, or no country gets them, and preferably nobody.
    Who authorizes and controls these situation? What about countries which can't afford them? Should we set up a fund?

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sanctions are an act of war, at least an invitation, of themselves. I don't think Putin has designs on Europe. This should be let alone.
    Sanctions are not an act of war, and obviously with troops lined up on the Ukrainian border he has designs on Europe. He even declared war.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Who will pay the new military operation and probably 'collateral' damages a new nuclear war?Kerry, Obama or probably Nuland?
    Rom 6:23:For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's difficult to dogmatically state what the Ukraine IS. It has been voluntarily under Russian control, under the kingdom of Poland by conquest, independent, under Russian control by force, briefly independent, and may come under control of Russia again by force. It's no traditional European country.
    In fact that's been a European tradition for centuries. Just look at an old map and a new one. The European idea of having the croc eat you last has never really worked, yet despite this historical evidence most Europeans still embrace it.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are you predicting WW111? Do you think Putin has designs beyond the Ukraine?
    What a remarkable question!!!

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    I'm sure somewhere there's a plan or maybe more than one to take back all the USSR's old land holdings. I'm doubting though that this is Putin's aim.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ok jmo, are you too advocating we engage Putin on the battlefield?
    Nobody is advocating war. But taking force off the table removes any and all leverage you have. If you rule out military action Putin just laughs in your face and does what he wants until someone actually provides military resistance.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You think Bush's punk ass talk and way of handling things bought him credibility in the world? You ever notice how close he stays to home?? It's time for other countries to stop hanging onto the US shirt tails, and take a little charge themselves. Now then, you can talk tuff or you can send in our military to engage the Russians, which do you prefer?
    What do you really think Obama will do? I would do nothing. Let them kill each other. It's just becoming ludicrous to watch the Obama Red Line Drawing party once again.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Ukraine pleads for Britain and US to come to its rescue as Russia accused of 'invasion' - Telegraph

    Paramilitary proxy warfare or will this continue to escalate?[/FONT]
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    Scenarios like this is exactly why the population should be armed.

    As for predictions... who knows.

    As for Obama...he leads from his behind.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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