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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since you're using false equivalency for zero good options for Obama because he is Obama, what is your opinion on Ukraine ?
    He has already ceded it to Russia as he is in awe of God Putin, like all right wingers. It's quite comical. There is no way we will take military action, especially unilaterally. Anyone who suggests it is a fool. Russia can't hide behind any curtains anymore and Putin will either withdraw or face serious economic consequences. He signed a pact guaranteeing Ukranian sovereignty for pete's sake.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Context View Post
    Regarding inflammation of the situation, allowing Russia to invade it's neighbors without any serious action taken against them is really what'll inflame the situation. The Russians need to come to understand that they'll never have the same geopolitical influence they once did. Only then can the situation really cool down.
    In this post, you are saying that no serious action taken against Russia is what will REALLY inflame the situation.
    You are suggesting we attack in suggestive wording.
    Now, before you deny saying that, just know it is common for posters to walk this stuff back .
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You still don't get it. This is not the USSR and without trade Russia will collapse in months and Putin knows it.
    Why? So the Russians will lose some export trade for some time. A temporary subsidy is all it would take for them to get by.

    But what would the Europeans do?

    A loss of money can be dealt with. A loss of real goods cannot.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    And what would mobilization accomplish, besides upsetting the majority of the Nation who were against bombing Syria?
    Amusing to watch all the Libertarians who are isolationists wanting a show of force for Ukraine .
    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Context View Post
    Assuming you mean my opinion on what should be done, I think I've given it. Mobilize American naval and air forces to show the Russians and Ukrainians both precisely where we stand.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    He has already ceded it to Russia as he is in awe of God Putin, like all right wingers. It's quite comical. There is no way we will take military action, especially unilaterally. Anyone who suggests it is a fool.
    God Putin? Any international success that might be attributed to the nut is better attributed to weak-kneed Western diplomacy.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    In this post, you are saying that no serious action taken against Russia is what will REALLY inflame the situation.
    You are suggesting we attack in suggestive wording.
    Now, before you deny saying that, just know it is common for posters to walk this stuff back .
    I'm certainly not suggesting that we attack, I'm suggesting that we announce that the Ukrainian military, in the case of war, will have the full support of American naval, air, and other supplementary forces, and then we make a very big show of preparing to back that announcement.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Where the Ukraine is is debatable.
    Where do you think it is if not in Europe? https://www.google.ca/search?q=ukrai...ml%3B505%3B490

    And how is Obama abandoning something the Europeans fault?
    Please use the quote because this question doesn't really make sense.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And what would mobilization accomplish, besides upsetting the majority of the Nation who were against bombing Syria?
    It would show Russian high command that this isn't a war they can win.

    Amusing to watch all the Libertarians who are isolationists wanting a show of force for Ukraine .
    I'm certainly no isolationist.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The GOP complains when Obama is or isn't their waterboy.
    I prefer this NO Drama Obama, without taking credit in public.
    We saw how the right went ape-**** when he spoke of bin Laden .
    Do you have any evidence for these claims? Don't confuse your opinion with the truth, or facts.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Speaking past another's post with snark?
    Stay focused on the thread or take a break .
    The post wasn't addressed to you but to Montecresto.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I never said what I am to you. I guess it's been stated enough times in threads you haven't visited though. I really don't see what relevance it is at any rate.
    It's a matter of integrity. Many foreigners pretend to be Americans on message boards, I've run into it before, and you seem to be one of them. And no, I haven't visited those threads where you were honest in this regard.

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