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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It is more than that..



    That is the language issue...

    And the last election



    The blue areas are the areas voting for the guy that just got kicked out and the yellow areas are for the woman that just got released from jail.

    The previous election in 2004..



    Blue areas for the guy who just got kicked out I believe (pro Russian)..

    See the pattern?
    Looks geographically, almost half and half to me? Unless, I'm missing something? And Russia will potentially, back the Blue and help them to bring the rest under their control.

    I think this whole event for the West is a big Media event, not an immediate problem to be acted on. The only thing I worry about a little bit, is Obama saying something dumb, he feels obligated to back up. I was glad to see when he met with his primary advisers and heads of departments for strategy today.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So you support GOP Conservatives who are running for the Senate,
    such as Rep. Tom Cotton in Arkansas, who supported bombing Syria?

    You do know that Cotton is a rising GOP star who served in the Military ?
    You made three statements...all proving my point. 1, people use it as nothing more than a label, 2-Blame the other guys...ALWAYS blame the other guys, and 3 its ALWAYS the republican guy.

    I didnt support military action against the Syrian government because there was and still is no evidence of who actually used chemical weapons (and because of the fact that people that the administration support have been known to both USE chemical weapons and been found with them in their possession). I thought it was stupid to make a 'red line' statement that you werent willing to enforce and that it was even more foolish to bang drums and literally take us to the brink of war, then suddenly vanish on the matter entirely.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Looks geographically, almost half and half to me? Unless, I'm missing something? And Russia will potentially, back the Blue and help them to bring the rest under their control.

    I think this whole event for the West is a big Media event, not an immediate problem to be acted on. The only thing I worry about a little bit, is Obama saying something dumb, he feels obligated to back up. I was glad to see when he met with his primary advisers and heads of departments for strategy today.
    It is half and half .. you said half of Crimea only hence my objection... that or I cant read (which is a possibility since it is Saturday evening)
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It is half and half .. you said half of Crimea only hence my objection... that or I cant read (which is a possibility since it is Saturday evening)
    I looked back and didn't say "half of Crimea". No biggy. It's early afternoon here.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Then why did Assad give up his WMD?
    Who may have influenced him? (Putin)
    Who may have influenced Putin? (Obama)
    When your policy is No Drama Obama, very few know what really was does in private negotiations .

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You made three statements...all proving my point. 1, people use it as nothing more than a label, 2-Blame the other guys...ALWAYS blame the other guys, and 3 its ALWAYS the republican guy.

    I didnt support military action against the Syrian government because there was and still is no evidence of who actually used chemical weapons (and because of the fact that people that the administration support have been known to both USE chemical weapons and been found with them in their possession). I thought it was stupid to make a 'red line' statement that you werent willing to enforce and that it was even more foolish to bang drums and literally take us to the brink of war, then suddenly vanish on the matter entirely.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    I can't believe the Soviets would ever give up Crimea to the Ukraine, even in 1954.
    Especially with its strategic location.
    I'm thinking of 'Gadsden's Purchase' as a justification for Russia to take a strip of Crimea.
    If I were a current History teacher, this would be a learning moment this week with current affairs.
    Along with the benefits of learning World Geography that most USA kids won't know .
    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I looked back and didn't say "half of Crimea". No biggy. It's early afternoon here.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Nice maps grip.
    Sure looks like West Germany and East Germany .
    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Looks geographically, almost half and half to me? Unless, I'm missing something? And Russia will potentially, back the Blue and help them to bring the rest under their control.

    I think this whole event for the West is a big Media event, not an immediate problem to be acted on. The only thing I worry about a little bit, is Obama saying something dumb, he feels obligated to back up. I was glad to see when he met with his primary advisers and heads of departments for strategy today.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Then why did Assad give up his WMD?
    Who may have influenced him? (Putin)
    Who may have influenced Putin? (Obama)
    When your policy is No Drama Obama, very few know what really was does in private negotiations .
    WHat makes you think Assad has actually given up ANYTHING? And no...Obama didnt influence Putin...Putin seized on Obamas stupidity and punked him. When a politician makes PUTIN look like a statesman, you can rest assured...that politician is a ****head.

    Again...all three of your 'responses' proved my point. And now, in every way...you CONTINUE to prove it.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Nice maps grip.
    sure looks like West Germany and Eaqst Germaqny .
    LOL,, those maps were put up by PeteEU from my quotes.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

    I'll have to go back and note that.
    He's been on his game today as have many other concerned Europeans on our board.
    I'm listening to talk of boycotting the G-8 in Russia in June, as with what Russia did in Georgia.
    That would be petty, but the USA did have a terrorist attack from Georgia residents.
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    LOL,, those maps were put up by PeteEU from my quotes.
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