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    Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    On Wednesday, the House Judiciary Committee brought in legal experts with a message of tough love.
    They testified that the House — indeed, the whole Congress — was a bunch of lily-livered pushovers, unable to stand up to a bully.

    “Recently, Congress has seemed — frankly — feckless and uncertain as to its authority,” testified Jonathan Turley, a law professor at George Washington University.
    Later on, Turley went further. This wasn’t just weakness.
    It was worse. Did Congress actually hate itself?
    “For Congress not to act, in my view, borders on self-loathing,” he said.
    “If you want to stay relevant as an institution,” said Elizabeth Price Foley, a law professor at Florida International University, “I would suggest that you not stand idly by and let the president take your power away.”

    Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions - The Washington Post
    As usual The WaPo cherry picked, and left much out....Turley, no 'right winger' was far more in depth than they let on....



    He's right...What should be done is a select joint committee, to gather for impeachment, but this congress will not do that...So, I guess the fundamental change Obama spoke of is taking place...Bid America goodbye.
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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As usual The WaPo cherry picked, and left much out....Turley, no 'right winger' was far more in depth than they let on....



    He's right...What should be done is a select joint committee, to gather for impeachment, but this congress will not do that...So, I guess the fundamental change Obama spoke of is taking place...Bid America goodbye.
    It's my understanding that Executive Orders are perfectly proper and meant to let the president tweak certain policies and procedures in order to allow proper enforcement/execution of Congressional legislation. If that's not what the President is doing? If Presidents are mis-using the power of these EO's? Then it's time Congress stepped up and challenged EOs as appropriate.

    You'll notice I said "Presidents." Obama is not the first President to use EO's. He won't be the last. Time for Congress to take a stand.
    Executive Orders Issued by President: Executive Orders Disposition Tables Index

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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It's my understanding that Executive Orders are perfectly proper and meant to let the president tweak certain policies and procedures in order to allow proper enforcement/execution of Congressional legislation. If that's not what the President is doing? If Presidents are mis-using the power of these EO's? Then it's time Congress stepped up and challenged EOs as appropriate.

    You'll notice I said "Presidents." Obama is not the first President to use EO's. He won't be the last. Time for Congress to take a stand.
    Executive Orders Issued by President: Executive Orders Disposition Tables Index
    I agree that Obama is not the first, but as Turley points out, it is Obama that has put this power on steroids and rapidly rendering congress a moot point....
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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Can anyone point out a specific EO that is objectionable that Obama has issued since the SOTU? That's a real question.

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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Can anyone point out a specific EO that is objectionable that Obama has issued since the SOTU? That's a real question.
    I refer you back to the youtube for reference.
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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Can anyone point out a specific EO that is objectionable that Obama has issued since the SOTU? That's a real question.
    Which SOTU address? He has given six.

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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As usual The WaPo cherry picked, and left much out....Turley, no 'right winger' was far more in depth than they let on....



    He's right...What should be done is a select joint committee, to gather for impeachment, but this congress will not do that...So, I guess the fundamental change Obama spoke of is taking place...Bid America goodbye.
    I don't think they are right. Why would the GOP waste time on trying to control Obama when the Dems will steadfastly stand against it? The house could do all the impeachment proceedings it likes, but the Dems in the Senate won't do a damned thing.
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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbeard View Post
    Which SOTU address? He has given six.
    In the last SOTU he specifically "threatened" to use the EO if Congress would not take action.

    Subsequently, I'm aware that he delayed ACA implementation for medium businesses, which is hardly a threat to the fabric of society. I'm not aware of any dramatic EOs since January, so I asked a simple question. As usual, I didn't get a specific response. I then watched the video and read the article but nowhere did it say "Obama EO this or that". I'm sure he did EO something so I thought would ask here since everybody seems to have a high opinion of their profound political knowledge.

    Oh well, costs nothing to ask.....

    Did you have something to contribute and expand my knowledge base? I'll appreciate it.

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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quit being so snotty.

    You asked a question, but failed to be specific, and not being a mind reader legitimately prompted my question.

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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As usual The WaPo cherry picked, and left much out....Turley, no 'right winger' was far more in depth than they let on....



    He's right...What should be done is a select joint committee, to gather for impeachment, but this congress will not do that...So, I guess the fundamental change Obama spoke of is taking place...Bid America goodbye.
    The problem is congress has stopped being a congress a long time ago. Those members of congress of whichever party that is in the White House have become part of the administration and not of congress. There was a time when congress would have been very protective of its powers, not anymore. The last time congress reigned in any presidential powers was just after Watergate. Since then each succeeding president has garnered more power and left congress weaker and weaker. Congress as a whole has only themselves to blame.

    As for impeachment, it is a waste of time. President Obama has done nothing wrong in the eyes of the American people. Until and unless one can prove to them what exactly he has done wrong that deserves impeachment and the American people agree with that finding, you’re peeing into the wind. You’re over reaching.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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