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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Tell us which EOs you have a problem with and how they are changing the Country.
    You do realize that an EO is not a law, presidents can not create or change laws.
    In fact he can and is doijg just that. As well, his attorney general is ignoring the laws with which he disagrees, and abetted by Obama.Congressman Smith to Obama: Enforce the Laws as Congress Wrote Them | Texas GOP Vote

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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Usurpation of power is not petty at all, it is significant.

    Even though governments and greedy leaders have usurped power, or attempted to do so, over the ages, that does not make it lawful.

    Obama's claim to being a conscientious constitutional law professor are spurious.
    What is surprising is that there are many American who will not only defend this President's actions but insist that the president's personal history and his many scandal cover-ups not be fully investigated. These are a remarkably incurious people during an important historical time.

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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    I say leave him alone. It keeps him busy and doesn't hurt that much for very long. All those things can be undone later. As long as it doesn't grow government and government debt, it isn't something that has to last forever. What Congress does is far more harmful to the American way of life.

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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Another dose of stupid from the left. Oh, well. I guess your tactic is to pigeon hole all this just to EOs, and to then show that every President uses them, and your flawed conclusion is therefore Obama can make any EO he wants. Standard left wing tactic to mislead. Got it.

    There was a federal program called R.I.F. (reading is fundamental). So, I say again, I don't care about the number of EOs. We have a lawless President. We have a President that is overstepping his authority, he is threatening to take over legislative duties if Congress does not do what he wants. A President that thinks he can just modify laws on the fly, change them as he pleases. Or just decide not to enforce them at all. A President that is attacking the Constitution, violating his oath to defend it.

    And many Presidents want to take as much power as they can. But in this case, we have a Democrat Congress that is willing to do nothing as he weakens them and takes more and more power. And Republicans that are complicit. The Founders of this nation put in checks and balances, but they never envisioned a Congress like this, that would just sit there and not protect their branch of government.
    There is nothing new about what Obama is doing. Again, review the list and show us how it has changed. This is a typical tactic of the right: here it on Fox News or some political porn site, take it as fact (because they are too lazy or do not know how to fact check themselves) and then result to insult and insolence when confronted with the truth (because they lack the education to know the truth themselves). You are but a tool of this right-wing propaganda machine... you don't know enough about the issue to know you are being used.


    Do you honestly believe that Obama has suddenly changed the power of the executive? Actually, he may have only in not battling congress, who has pretty much made the executive impotent. Have you heard of the concept of the unitary executive / the imperial executive? It pretty says the President can do what he wants. Its a pretty arrogant and outrageous contention, but its been the contention of almost every president since Nixon.

    Imperial Presidency 101 - The Unitary Executive Theory, Separation of Powers, and Signing Statements

    There is nothing new in Obama's executive orders. Past executive orders have been used to intern Japanese Americans, adjust wages paid by the federal government, seize control of businesses, round up americans in the street at night and hold them without charges, create federal agencies and direct foreign policy.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debat...cutive-orders/
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/richards...-a-mere-piker/
    http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2...nts-used-them/
    http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...ial-directives
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101369574
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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    I make it easy for everyone.

    Below is a link that display all of President Obama's executive orders. Everyone who believes that he should be impeach on any of them, please refer to them and we can debate from there. I'm sick of hearing talking points.


    Barack Obama Executive Orders Disposition Tables

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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I agree that Obama is not the first, but as Turley points out, it is Obama that has put this power on steroids and rapidly rendering congress a moot point....
    He's only been able to do that with the help of Sen Reid. If Reid had a shred of integrity, he'd call Obama and end this **** today.
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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He's only been able to do that with the help of Sen Reid. If Reid had a shred of integrity, he'd call Obama and end this **** today.
    If it had been President Romney, he'd be all over it. Or course, we wouldn't be hearing the outrage from our RW posters or any Republicans in Congress.


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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    I agree this president needs to be reigned in with his executive actions. The right often characterizes those actions as Executive Orders, when they instead are regulations which are issued by administrative agencies. There is a Congressional bill to challenge the Obama adminstration on his executive actions which is currently in committee.
    "H.Res. 442: Directing the House of Representatives to bring a civil action for declaratory or injunctive relief to challenge certain policies and actions taken by the executive branch. "
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hres442

    The only Executive Order I'm aware of which is improper is as yet unnumbered and not available at archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/, but claims authority under 29 U.S.C. 214(c) to change federal contractors' minimum wage. I've read 29 U.S.C. 214(c), and don't find it gives Obama that authority. Boehner has noted that it will probably affect no one, and thus won't likely be challenged.
    Executive Order -- Minimum Wage for Contractors | The White House

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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Tell us which EOs you have a problem with and how they are changing the Country.
    I just listed a few of the problems I have with this president and what he is doing, I see no reason to limit it to EOs.

    You do realize that an EO is not a law, presidents can not create or change laws.
    Oh, I realize it. The problem is that our president doesn't. And Congress is doing nothing to stop him.
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    Re: Congress urged to challenge Obama’s executive actions

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    He's right...What should be done is a select joint committee, to gather for impeachment, but this congress will not do that...So, I guess the fundamental change Obama spoke of is taking place...Bid America goodbye.
    The sky is falling!!!!!!

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