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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Cinco de Mayo should be an American celebration as well as a Mexican one. The students should have been taught what the occasion was all about, then perhaps the juvenile attempt at jingoism could have been avoided.

    Napoleon III of France invaded Mexico with the intention of taking it over and then invading the USA from that platform. Since we were in the midst of the Civil war at the time, his plan had a pretty good chance of success.

    The French were defeated by Benito Juarez and his forces at the Battle of Puebla on the 5 of May, which is what the day commemorates.

    Obviously, some students saw it as some sort of intrusion of Mexican culture into the "real America" or some such nonsense. Mexico and the USA should celebrate that date together.
    It is a much bigger holiday in the US as it is in Mexico. Most people here don't know why 5 de Mayo is celebrated.

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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

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    "They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's free speech. Would you also oppose people wearing a Mexican flag on The 4th of July?
    The situation is important to consider. This was at a school, which are normally not in session on the 4th of July. Therefore, the situation is clearly different in many respects.

    Now IF we were to have this hypothetical school that didn't observe the 4th of July holiday (yes, I'm considering summer school which is still closed on the 4th of July), I would think that it's within the school's right to disallow the Mexican flag. It's a dress code. I don't know about your job, but I can't wear anything I want to work. Welcome to real life.


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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    I thought Michelle Pfeiffer and James Belushi solved all these problems in the California public schools.

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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

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    Says the guy who supports warrantless wiretapping on the basis of national security (I do too, by the way).
    Yeah? Got a quote? Thaaaanks!
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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The situation is important to consider. This was at a school, which are normally not in session on the 4th of July. Therefore, the situation is clearly different in many respects.

    Now IF we were to have this hypothetical school that didn't observe the 4th of July holiday (yes, I'm considering summer school which is still closed on the 4th of July), I would think that it's within the school's right to disallow the Mexican flag. It's a dress code. I don't know about your job, but I can't wear anything I want to work. Welcome to real life.
    The government cant suppress free speech. Period
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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The government cant suppress free speech. Period
    Schools can set dress codes. Most of them don't allow shirts with vulgar language, isn't that free speech?

    They should have let him wear it. Then let the Mexicans kick his ass.


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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah? Got a quote? Thaaaanks!
    That would be impossible, you didn't join until 2009. Bush wasn't President then.


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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Doesn't wearing a flag as clothing violate the flag code?
    Only if you're a liberal.

    Abby Hoffman, a liberal yippie from the 60's, got the crap beat out of him and arrested almost everytime he opened his mouth. He had to go into hiding.



    Then, on the other hand, the people who hated Abby Hoffman for "wearing a shirt made out of an American flag," absolutely LOVED Roy Rogers and Dale Evans, two American icons that represented God, guns, apple pie, patriotism, rightwing hypocracy and cutesy Shirley Temple idealism. Roy Rogers regularly wore shirts that were representative of the American flag. In fact, I recall see Roy Rogers in a shirt not much different than the shirt Abby wore.

    Myself, I'm split on my opinion. I'm the kinda guy that would wear the American flag on Cinco De Mayo. Screw Cinco De Mayo. This is America. Here we celebrate the 4th of July. If you wanna make the 5th of May a holiday for Mexican independence, fine. Carry your ass back to Mexico and have at it.

    On the other hand, I understand the school's decision to forego principle for the sake of student safety. But I think the Principal was a pussy. He should have sent the gang banger's that had a problem with the American flag home. Therein lies the problem.

    I do believe the guy trying to instigate trouble is an asshole but he DOES have a right to his free-speech too.

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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Doesn't wearing a flag as clothing violate the flag code?
    Depends on how it's worn.

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