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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    . When Sherman began his march on the south he commanded 62,000 battle hardened troops who would have made mince meat of any French forces trying to interfere to take US land.
    They were, however, slightly preoccupied....


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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's not a stretch at all to imagine Napoleon's forces, having a foothold in Mexico, invading the USA and at best prolonging the civil war, or, at worst, taking over the Confederacy.
    Look at the force levels. Simply because a scenario can be conjured up in one's imagination (not yours, but a historian's) doesn't make it plausible. Hey, Canada might take over the United States too. It has an an entire military establishment with troops and equipment parked right on our Northern border.

    How does France replenish troops, how does France resupply, how does France keep secure the supply lines from Veracruz up into the American Southwest? Can their landed troops simultaneously keep control of Mexico and launch a land war?

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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I would however, put the wearing the American flag on a day to celebrate Mexican heritage was either stupid or intended to get the response it did. Acting to prevent a race war from breaking out may not have been the worst idea in the world.
    Who started the violence in this "race war"?

    The culture may do for California what it did for Mexico.

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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Don't you just love the putrid smell of multiculturalism rotting out in the fields? American flags are now seen as a divisive symbol at American public schools:


    Today’s Dariano v. Morgan Hill Unified School Dist. (9th Cir. Feb. 27, 2014) upholds a California high school’s decision to forbid students from wearing American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo. . . .

    At least one party to this appeal, student M.D., wore American flag clothing to school on Cinco de Mayo 2009. M.D. was approached by a male student who, in the words of the district court, “shoved a Mexican flag at him and said something in Spanish expressing anger at [M.D.’s] clothing.

    In the aftermath of the students’ departure from school, they received numerous threats from other students. D.G. was threatened by text message on May 6, and the same afternoon, received a threatening phone call from a caller saying he was outside of D.G.’s home. D.M. and M.D. were likewise threatened with violence, and a student at Live Oak overheard a group of classmates saying that some gang members would come down from San Jose to “take care of” the students. Because of these threats, the students did not go to school on May 7.

    We hold that school officials, namely Rodriguez, did not act unconstitutionally, under either the First Amendment or Article I, § 2(a) of the California Constitution, in asking students to turn their shirts inside out, remove them, or leave school for the day with an excused absence in order to prevent substantial disruption or violence at school.

    This is a classic “heckler’s veto” — thugs threatening to attack the speaker, and government officials suppressing the speech to prevent such violence. “Heckler’s vetoes” are generally not allowed under First Amendment law; the government should generally protect the speaker and threaten to arrest the thugs, not suppress the speaker’s speech. But under Tinker‘s “forecast substantial disruption” test, such a heckler’s veto is indeed allowed.
    I see you got that part, why didn't you quote the paragraph right before that one?

    On Cinco de Mayo in 2009, a year before the events relevant to this appeal, there was an altercation on campus between a group of predominantly Caucasian students and a group of Mexican students. The groups exchanged profanities and threats. Some students hung a makeshift American flag on one of the trees on campus, and as they did, the group of Caucasian students began clapping and chanting “USA.” A group of Mexican students had been walking around with the Mexican flag, and in response to the white students’ flag-raising, one Mexican student shouted “f*** them white boys, f*** them white boys.” When Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez told the student to stop using profane language, the student said, “But Rodriguez, they are racist. They are being racist. F*** them white boys. Let’s f*** them up.” Rodriguez removed the student from the area….
    Sounds like some other folks were spoiling for a right, and that they were using the American flag to do so. I think the school was right to stop such displays before the situation become violent. Just because you're using an American, or Mexican flag, to incite violence doesn't mean you're untouchable.

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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I see you got that part, why didn't you quote the paragraph right before that one?



    Sounds like some other folks were spoiling for a right, and that they were using the American flag to do so. I think the school was right to stop such displays before the situation become violent. Just because you're using an American, or Mexican flag, to incite violence doesn't mean you're untouchable.
    I knew there was more to this story.

    Let's face it, this thread was created by cons specifically to rant about Mexicans.

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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who started the violence in this "race war"?

    The culture may do for California what it did for Mexico.
    Race bait much?


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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They were, however, slightly preoccupied....
    There was almost no southern opposition at that point. Hell, even the Confederate troops that Sherman was steamrolling were superior to the French force. There is nothing the French could have done in that time to solidify any gains in the Southern states. Especially since, in hindsight, they couldn't even defeat 4,500 Mexican troops.

    So yeah, IF the French had a descent army on the Continent then things might look different today. But history shows us that the French didn't have a descent army on the continent.

    IF the French had the kind of army capable of taking and holding ground in the face of the Union Army then... that French army would have crushed Juarez. That French Army is fictitious.
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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I would however, put the wearing the American flag on a day to celebrate Mexican heritage was either stupid or intended to get the response it did. Acting to prevent a race war from breaking out may not have been the worst idea in the world.
    if you want to have a Mexican flag out side of Mexico you should let people display whatever dam flag they choose only fair

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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It's obvious the administrators saw this coming, the school's hispanic side has a history of violence. A better way to go, since it is an American school and not a Mexican one would have been to preemptively require all students to wear or carry an American flag for the school day. Also, the school admins were dertelict in their duty. If they thought there was a safety issue (and they've argued they did) they should have had the police gang unit camped out there.

    Sounds like the school is more interested in protecting hoodlums than they are in their student's freedom and education.
    nah making people carry a flag is even worse then banning one

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    Re: Court Rules Schools Allowed To Ban American Flag In Order To Make Schools Safer

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    California. 'Nuff said.
    that is bull ****

    nuff said

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