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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    If this was a privately funded all white male only program, would you still not have a problem?
    as long as it was privately funded, no. I wouldn't contribute to it, you understand, but other people can contribute to whatever charity they choose to.
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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    If this was a privately funded all white male only program, would you still not have a problem?
    Heya Jimbo .....Well as some have pointed out. That exclusion part.....and equality thingy. Doesn't seem to hit home.

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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Except that we can't show them that in this economy or in the oligarchy we currently live under. It's like religion, you can believe in it, but there's no current reality that backs any of it up.
    Oh, I think current reality is that the US is still a land of opportunity. If you choose to believe that the problem is "society" or "whitie", or "the man", then you'll never make the effort to break the cycle of poverty. If you can be led to believe that your choices really do make a difference, then the cycle can be broken. Our society has many middle class Americans who were born into poverty. It can be done, and is all the time.

    but, no one said it was easy, or that a little help along the way is a bad thing.
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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I wonder just how many people who are critisizing this effort really took the time to read the linked article in the OP?

    From the article:



    Reading comprehension, folks. Nothing in the OP article mentions the use of federal tax dollars for this mentoring initiative. From the sound of it, every nickle would come from private funding. So, why are you folks complaining? I'd think you'd be glad on two fronts:

    1. No tax dollars are being spent on the program; and,

    2. It helps these so-called "thugs" learn how to "take more responsibility for themselves".

    3. Rich people are putting their own money to use....you know, the money they earned to have the freedom to keep more of it and do with it whatever they want.

    I mean, these companies and charities are living by the principles Conservatives preach about. So, who are you folks to critisize? I say STFU! It's not your money.
    I read what I can, but I go thru columns of text each day; so it's easy to miss something.

    About this:
    The president will create a new interagency My Brother’s Keeper Task Force headed by Broderick Johnson, the Cabinet secretary and assistant to the president. Education Secretary Arne Duncan, Attorney General Eric Holder, Labor Secretary Thomas Perez and other senior officials will be personally involved in “My Brother’s Keeper,” according to Jarrett.
    are these federal duties?
    Does the Task Force use fed'l organizational abilities -or I this all done by these officials on their own time?

    If it's part of fed'l duties, it does impact on other duties these Cabinet officials have to accomplish ? A smaller point then actual fed'l $ being used, and I doubt cabinet officials are over worked
    . But it's worth looking at.

    I doubt anyone here has any problems with peer mentoring, but it is worthwhile to question whether these ideas are better implemented by locals or state or feds, or a combination of all 3.

    Too many people just willy-nilly look at an idea and are automatically OK with federalization, was the larger idea of my post.

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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    No. But we call that the 4-H Club, Boy Scouts, Boy's Club, YMCA or better yet COLLEGE!
    My bad. I was under the impression that none of the clubs you mentioned excluded anyone.

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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    President Obama had a nice feel-good moment.
    He could have knocked it out of the park with some needy white faces behind him.
    BHO missed a golden opportunity to bring together ALL colors needy.
    White voters have a right to be upset at not being included, since 'inclusion' is the going word .
    You have got to be kidding me?

    I can't speak to the press conference, but did anyone bother to look at the picture from the OP article? I counted 3 White adults in the shot...2 males, 1 female.

    MBK.jpg

    Would you be okay if that became the poster for the "My Brother's Keeper" program? Would that make y'all White folks happy?

    (I'm being sarcastic, but dang, man! Why does everything this man does have to be laced by the pundits with a touch of racism or political partisan brinksmanship? Why can't he just be doing something because it's the right thing to do?)
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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    My bad. I was under the impression that none of the clubs you mentioned excluded anyone.
    They don't. However, my point is such programs have long been far more accessible to young White boys than they have been to young Black boys. Don't confuse "access" with "restriction".
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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    About this:
    The president will create a new interagency My Brother’s Keeper Task Force headed by Broderick Johnson, the Cabinet secretary and assistant to the president. Education Secretary Arne Duncan, Attorney General Eric Holder, Labor Secretary Thomas Perez and other senior officials will be personally involved in “My Brother’s Keeper,” according to Jarrett.
    Does it cost any more tax payer dollars to add to these Cabinet member's responsibilities? Did their pay increase? No!?! So, again...

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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Young black men persistently lag behind other groups in high school graduation rates and employment, and, as White House officials point out, they are six times more likely than their white peers to be murdered.
    The best fix for the problems of young black men is to give them a job.

    The problem of black male joblessness has increased at the same time that the immigrant proportion of our population has increased. The greatest gains made by blacks occurred during the 2nd Great Migration from the South to the North at a time when employers were desperate for employees and our immigration system was basically shut down. Labor scarcity FORCED employers to hire black men and women.

    What's happening now is that blacks are being displaced from the labor force. We can't blame employers for preferring harder working, less troublesome immigrants but we're not engaged in a population swap here where for every immigrant brought into the nation we ship out a jobless black person.

    Our first duty should be to our own citizens, not to foreigners. We need to create labor market conditions which FORCE employers to hire these young black men. It's at this point that improvements in their lives can begin. They'll have some responsibility, they'll be earning some money, they can improve themselves and be rewarded with more responsibility on the job and higher pay. This will boost their self-esteem. They can modify their own behavior by observing the behavior of their coworkers.

    Obama though doesn't want to deport the illegals and cut off legal immigration, the direct causes of so much devastation in the African-American community.

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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    that constantly put down young Black teens (or Blacks in general) for being lazy, shiftless, thugs, vagrants and everything negative under the sun
    The labor market data doesn't paint a pretty picture. The reliability of many black men on the job is subpar and employers prefer avoiding the problems that they cause and instead seek out labor from other communities. You can't blame the employers for wanting less troublesome employees.

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