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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    What is needed is a way to convince the youth that, if their life is a turd (polished or not), it is due to the choices that they have made, and, if they don't like it, they need to make different choices.
    LOL. You guys are so ignorant of inner city environments

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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I agree, and yet, he certainly doesn't fall into the category of anti religion, does he?
    It is liberals, leftists, progressives, etc. all interchangeable terms it seems, who often, in a very negative way, refer to the 'religious right'. The 'right', meanwhile, seldom, if ever, refer to the 'religious left'.

    This would include people like Jimmy Carter as well as the Black Churches, with many of these Churches holding values similar to the 'religious right', but of course voting quite differently.

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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    LOL. You guys are so ignorant of inner city environments
    Why not share your knowledge and insights?

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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is liberals, leftists, progressives, etc. all interchangeable terms it seems, who often, in a very negative way, refer to the 'religious right'. The 'right', meanwhile, seldom, if ever, refer to the 'religious left'.

    This would include people like Jimmy Carter as well as the Black Churches, with many of these Churches holding values similar to the 'religious right', but of course voting quite differently.
    Certainly, there is a "religious left" as well, with values not so different from the religious right.
    "liberals, leftists, progressives, etc. all interchangeable terms it seems" is the reason why a definition of terms is in order when discussing "liberals."

    OK, back to whether current society is "anti religion."
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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I don't know. I thought "liberal" to you was synonymous with "statist", the philosophy that big government is the solution to problems. What that has to do with attacking "the church" I have no idea. Which church are we talking ab out here, Catholic, Baptist, Protestant in general, Jewish, what? When you post "when liberals want to scream that there is a separation between church and state, only not when they want to assault the church." makes me wonder just what you do mean.
    Statism taken to its extreme would certainly be anti religion, no?
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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I agree, and yet, he certainly doesn't fall into the category of anti religion, does he?
    Depends on which religion with him I think.
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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Certainly, there is a "religious left" as well, with values not so different from the religious right.
    "liberals, leftists, progressives, etc. all interchangeable terms it seems" is the reason why a definition of terms is in order when discussing "liberals."

    OK, back to whether current society is "anti religion."
    Ok, "anti religion" may not be the right term, let's say "anti your religion" or "anti profession of religion"
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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Statism taken to its extreme would certainly be anti religion, no?
    Not necessarily. The church and state combination makes for a strong and authoritarian sort of governance.
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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Depends on which religion with him I think.
    Really? Which religion do you see Carter as being against?
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    Re: Obama Launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to Help young Minority Men.....

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, "anti religion" may not be the right term, let's say "anti your religion" or "anti profession of religion"
    Now, that's an interesting concept.

    Liberals, defined as statists, are anti my religion, or anti profession of religion? I'm not sure just how that is. If "profession of religion" means evangelism, then a lot of people are anti the people going around professing that their religion is right and yours is wrong.
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