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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    1.) was not discussing the bill. your off base, many people have strayed from the topic.
    2.) sorry you cannot understand Madison....all liberty is derived out of property, therefore property of every sort is to be protected by government
    3.) if government uses force on a person to make them preform a service for another citizen, bake a cake, take a picture, that is rights violation.
    4.) so there are people her that said this was just about the denial of service and basic discrimination? i bet there wasnt and thats your mistake
    5.) who said i didn't understand hi,m? oh thats right nobody lol i said that didn't matter to anything actually being discussed here but thank you for proving you dont understand that fact
    3.) good thing that factually isnt happening

    i will ask you again

    tell me what you think this thread is about

    its NOT about solely denying service
    its NOT about solely discrimaintion

    do you know what its about?
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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

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    Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor - chicagotribune.com




    back up links:

    Arizona governor vetoes anti-gay bill
    Arizona Governor Jan Brewer Vetoes Anti-Gay Bill - NBC News
    Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoes so-called anti-gay bill - latimes.com
    Arizona governor vetoes controversial bill allowing denial of service to gays
    Arizona Governor Vetoes Bill Seen Discriminating Against Gays - Businessweek
    Jan Brewer Announces Veto Of Arizona Anti-Gay Bill SB 1062
    Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoes anti-gay bill | MSNBC
    Arizona governor vetoes anti-gay bill - Chicago Sun-Times


    vetoed just like i thought and said it would be


    equality wins again


    again it shows the panic and fear of the bigots and those that support discrimination and are against equal rights. They see the writing on the wall, they know equal rights is winning and is going to win the war so they are getting desperate.

    The best part is, even if they win some of these little battles its things like this that are actually HELPING equal rights. The majority of the public eye judges it as wrong and see how nuts it is. But it establishes something that can be challenged in courts just like the state bannings. The vast majority of the lawsuits exist BECAUSE of state bannings lol. The bannings HELPED, its sweet poetic justice.

    THeres some other state trying these i hope they get some momentum behind them to draw more of the public eye on this insanity.
    I don't know how anyone can still think this is about equality, pro or con.

    This was about business. Businesses started the bill, and other businesses stopped it. The side with the most money to offer is always the side which wins these contests.

    No part of this entire thing has to do with equality except for the propaganda fed to the useful idiots to derive votes and money.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A black photog CAN be forced, by law, to shoot a KKK themed wedding?
    force?
    awesome ANOTHER post that proves you have no clue about law rights and facts lol

    sorry once again rights apply to us ALL

    since you keep proving you dont know heres the law and facts

    illegal discrimaintion is discrimination based on age, disability, genetic info, race/color/ national origin, religion, gender sometimes sexual orientation

    let me know if you are still confused
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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    force?
    awesome ANOTHER post that proves you have no clue about law rights and facts lol

    sorry once again rights apply to us ALL

    since you keep proving you dont know heres the law and facts

    illegal discrimaintion is discrimination based on age, disability, genetic info, race/color/ national origin, religion, gender sometimes sexual orientation

    let me know if you are still confused

    I can't be the only one that finds Agent-J's posts a pain to read.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't know how anyone can still think this is about equality, pro or con.

    This was about business. Businesses started the bill, and other businesses stopped it. The side with the most money to offer is always the side which wins these contests.

    No part of this entire thing has to do with equality except for the propaganda fed to the useful idiots to derive votes and money.
    who said the bill was about equality?
    you must of quoted the wrong person

    the devil could of vetoed the bill its still good for equal rights nothing changes that
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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    who said the bill was about equality?
    You did. Re-read your OP:

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    equality wins again
    Equality was never a player, to then win or lose.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    force?
    awesome ANOTHER post that proves you have no clue about law rights and facts lol

    sorry once again rights apply to us ALL

    since you keep proving you dont know heres the law and facts

    illegal discrimaintion is discrimination based on age, disability, genetic info, race/color/ national origin, religion, gender sometimes sexual orientation

    let me know if you are still confused
    force or coercion the same thing.

    discrimination ...... who cares what it is based on...... immaterial.

    to use force/ coercion on a business owner to make him serve another person, is unconstitutional per the 13th amendment.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You did. Re-read your OP.
    nope never said the BILL was about equality
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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    1.)force or coercion the same thing.
    2.)discrimination ...... who cares what it is based on...... immaterial.
    3.)to use force/ coercion on a business owner to make him serve another person, is unconstitutional per the 13th amendment.
    1.) again none here
    2.) 100% false if its based on the wrong thing it violates rights and the law
    3.) could thing that factually isnt happening

    tell me what you think this thread is about

    its NOT about solely denying service
    its NOT about solely discrimaintion

    do you know what its about?
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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    sorry dude im not buying it' i'm a christian and nothing in his post bothered me because it was clearly directed at the christians that want to treat people as lessers and want the law to make them lessers/keep them lessers


    well thats not me so it didnt offend me one bit
    this guy is NO WHERE NEAR the retard in the square you talked about

    are you a christian that wants others to not have the same rights as you, or wants to treat others as lessers and wan the law to do so also? if not then that post should of had no effect on you

    if so then it explains your misplaced post
    Your assertion is factually incorrect.

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