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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Oh really? I didn't know you could discriminate for any reason... gays can be banned from gas stations huh...?, what about blacks, them too?
    You're right in that point, though I suppose homosexuals could be banned from a gas station in states that don't have sexual orientation added to their list of protected classes.

    Had it happen to me once in California back in the early 70s, they wouldn't sell me gas because I was a hippie.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Of course they can and they have in the past with legal segregation laws.
    yes, they have and its illegal, ..we agree here.

    however when you use laws which are meant to limit the powers of government, ...on people, then you are violating their rights.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    yes, and it applies to local government also, a city government cannot discriminate, ..because government works for the people.

    how can a government discriminate against the very people it works for?
    They can pass bills such as this to allow legal discrimination.


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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    So you're saying the 1964 act is partially illegal?
    I think it's partially unconstitutional. Hasn't been ruled that way yet though so it's still "legal".

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The Constitution never explicitly protects the right to vote, but simply says that it can not be denied to certain groups.
    IN hind sight this was not a great example, but with a bit of intellectual integrity you would have known what I mean. I shall not expect that from you in the future.

    Thanks for not reading the Constitution.
    Oh, but I have and better yet I understand it unlike you.

    Oh and btw, you just showed no understand of the difference between children and adults.
    Come on, even you can do better than that. Are you suggesting that a few months here or there do really make a difference?

    The reason a child's rights are restricted BY NATURE
    Riiight, what a load of BS.

    What force?
    The one you introduce into this discussion.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    They can pass bills such as this to allow legal discrimination.

    government is not here to pass laws to allow discrimination.

    government is here to secure your rights, no matter how you exercise them, ......the only exception being you cant violate the rights of other people, or violate health and saftey laws which can put the public in danger.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It was the event that he refused to participate in, provide for.
    But he wasn't invited to the wedding nor was his name on the cake, but he was a bigot.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    They can pass bills such as this to allow legal discrimination.
    No, the bill wouldn't have allowed discrimination BY GOVERNMENT, but by individuals.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    yes, they have and its illegal, ..we agree here.
    So this is allowing legal segregation... So isnt that illegal?


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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    government is not here to pass laws to allow discrimination.

    government is here to secure your rights, no matter how you exercise them, ......the only exception being you cant violate the rights of other people, or violate health and saftey laws which can put the public in danger.
    Except they are passing laws that are allowing legal discrimination....


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