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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    No. The CRA and the many states versions of their CRA's apply to businesses open to the general public.
    The states would not need to if that were actually a part of the CRA. How do you explain golf courses then?

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

    Congress of the United States
    begun and held at the City of New-York, on
    Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

    THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its [ FEDERAL] powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    " nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
    Didn't happen. They were protecting the rights of private enterprise.

    1.)They are therefore have the power to discriminate and if you are discriminating against such people you're not equally protected under the law.
    The amendment deals with states, not private enterprise. Just because the state passes a law dealing with private enterprise does not mean they violated the 14th amendment. You're just trying to make it so no can ever overturn your crap.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nope, that restrains the government (the State mentioned above), not individuals.
    A state allowing discrimination is depriving....


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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    governments cannot discriminate per the constitution.

    citizens can be discriminated by other citizens because the constitution does not apply to citizens or business.

    government works in the interest of the people, a citizen works in his own interest.

    its amazing that so many people wish to violate rights of citizens, ....just because they dont like how a another citizen behaves.
    So I'll assume you want some or all of the 1964 Civil Rights Act repealed?

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Didn't happen. They were protecting the rights of private enterprise.



    The amendment deals with states, not private enterprise. Just because the state passes a law dealing with private enterprise does not mean they violated the 14th amendment. You're just trying to make it so no can ever overturn your crap.
    A state passing a discrimination bill is depriving people.


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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    constitutions are written for government only?
    Fed gov and state Gov..


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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The states would not need to if that were actually a part of the CRA. How do you explain golf courses then?
    Private clubs can discriminate. Maybe you didn't know that.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    A state passing a discrimination bill is depriving people.
    No, the amendment does not address states passing laws to allow private individuals to discriminate. You're reaching pretty hard with this one, and while the Supreme Court might agree with you at some point, logic does not.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No need to create anything, the distinctions have been in place forever. The problem with your solution is that we don't have that sort of nanny system yet. The Constitutions, state and federal, regulate what the GOVERNMENT can do. Government discrimination is already addressed by law.
    So a baker can not make a cake, can a gas station refuse gas? Can a supermarket refuse service? What about a laundromat? I mean really this is ridiculous and the distinctions are not clear at all. You're implying discrimination is ok in anything not government or "vital". I think you've realized this line of thinking is a disaster and now you're trying to pull back.

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