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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Oh wow, mental gymnastics. So by that logic, if you called 911 and nobody came because they decided to eat lunch instead, there wouldn't be a lawsuit? No negligence settlement? No criminal charges?
    Do you understand the difference between paying for a service and not getting it, and simply being refused service in the first place?

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

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    If you don't already know, when the time comes, you'll learn.
    So how will I know? Will I feel it?

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So how will I know? Will I feel it?



    It depends on you and what you do or try to do.

    You might feel it big-time.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do you understand the difference between paying for a service and not getting it, and simply being refused service in the first place? Lets make something clear, if you agree to serve someone and you don't that is entirely different than saying I'm not serving you.
    Hmmm so people paying for 911 service through taxes you think is a contract for them to not discriminate and they must render you service in the event of an emergency? I suppose the local hospital, or businesses of all kind for that matter, are partially setup through similar taxes... so I guess all businesses in town should have to provide services because they are all partially owned through tax money?

    Oh boy the logic gets thick when you start looking for loopholes and excuses eh Henrin? Maybe you could just admit your ideology is a massive headache. Would you want to live in this town of yours? Where the hospital can let you die on the doorstep at their whim? I sure wouldn't.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Hmmm so people paying for 911 service through taxes you think is a contract for them to not discriminate and they must render you service in the event of an emergency? I suppose the local hospital, or businesses of all kind for that matter, are partially setup through similar taxes... so I guess all businesses in town should have to provide services because they are all partially owned through tax money?

    Oh boy the logic gets thick when you start looking for loopholes and excuses eh Henrin? Maybe you could just admit your ideology is a massive headache. Would you want to live in this town of yours? Where the hospital can let you die on the doorstep at their whim? I sure wouldn't.
    How many straqmen do you intend to create here? Hospitals and 911 are governed by a set of laws that are unique to vital services. The local bakery, not so much. No one is going to die if you refuse to sell them scones.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It depends on you and what you do or try to do.

    You might feel it big-time.
    It's a feeling thing, eh? Hmm..rights are based on reason, not feeling.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    How many straqmen do you intend to create here? Hospitals and 911 are governed by a set of laws that are unique to vital services. The local bakery, not so much. No one is going to die if you refuse to sell them scones.
    We're talking ideology here clown, I'm not trying to "prove" the baker story through this. Henrin says that denying service of any kind does not harm.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Hmmm so people paying for 911 service through taxes you think is a contract for them to not discriminate and they must render you service in the event of an emergency? I suppose the local hospital, or businesses of all kind for that matter, are partially setup through similar taxes... so I guess all businesses in town should have to provide services because they are all partially owned through tax money?
    Sigh. The government is not private enterprise. The government is set up to serve the people, while private enterprise is set up to serve the interest of the individual. To even suggest the two are the same shows a fundamental failure of understanding what government is and what private individuals are.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    We're talking ideology here clown, I'm not trying to "prove" the baker story through this. Henrin says that denying service of any kind does not harm.
    See #418.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sigh. The government is not private enterprise. The government is set up to serve the people, while private enterprise is set up to serve the interest of the individual. To even suggest the two are the same shows a fundamental failure of understanding what government is and what private individuals are.
    LoL, wut? So... are you suggesting hospital's are not privately owned? 911 systems are government operations so they should provide service but... hospitals don't have to?... unless you called 911?

    You're flopping around going in different directions trying to abstract your way out of this disaster.

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