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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    My church speaks harshly about divorce and unwed mothers. The church tells me that it's easier for a rich man to get through the eye of a needle than to enter the Kingdom of God so rich people must be evil too!

    Therefore, I REFUSE to serve divorced people, unwed mother's and rich folks. [/end sarcasm]

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    And you accuse me of vilifying you?
    Just calling it like I see it. Unfortunately, I believe you'll have the oppurtunity to make good on your promise, or not.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Before we know it, churches will be forced, by law to perform gay marriages. You can bet your butt that religious freedom is a right.
    good lord stop with this mentally retarded and insane hyperbolic dishonesty

    this is not going to happen in the US


    the constitution doesn't allow it and if it was a risk the churches would already be at risk without equal rights for gays

    churches already discriminate everyday against minorities and straight couples etc etc

    asinine strawmen like that will do nothing but get laughed at for how intellectually dishonest they are and the pure humor they represent lol

    thanks for the laugh
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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
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    The day that happens I will be on your side fighting it.
    me too because its never gonna happen lol
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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Gays are slaves?
    Diversion much?

    It matters not that you didn't understand the meaning of my post, or pretend not to, anyways.

    The rest of us get it.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I think Brewer did the right thing in this case.

    The idea that this bill was intended to serve is a worthwhile one but the bill itself was bound to create more problems than it fixed.

    Arizona public accommodations law doesn't protect homosexuals now and we haven't had any problems because of that. We also haven't had any cases where the problem that this bill sought to solve has come up. In essence, it was a solution in search of a problem.

    Furthermore, a law such as this simply BEGS the 'crusaders' on both sides of the fence to come out and we really don't need that either. In fact this bill would have created a situation where any exercise of the option to refuse service would result in a conflict with our state constitution.

    Article 2, Section 12 of the Arizona Constitution states:



    To my admittedly lay reading of the bill and the Constitution I don't see how any court could make a determination in any case that came before them without addressing the religious beliefs of at least one of the parties when protections under SB 1062 were claimed.
    The Oregon Constitution addresses religious beliefs not be denied also but that didn't stop the judge from finding the bakery owners in violation. The New Mexico Constitution did the same but the photographer was found guilty by another federal judge. This legislation was a way of putting into place a law that could not be easily overturned by another federal activist judge. A person's religion starts at home, it is more than a religion per say, it is a way of life. It plays a major role on how this person runs his business. But even if she had signed it, before the ink was dry, the gay rights activist groups had their posse of lawyers in waiting and an activist judge already picked out to hear the case. We are going to need action from Congress on this one to protect religious freedoms for all persons.
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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Perhaps, as a Republican, Ms. Brewer didn't want to spend millions of taxpayer dollars fighting a hopeless battle.

    I posted this in another thread. It my seem like humor, but it isn't exactly so.



    Am I not correct?
    hahaha nice

    and i agree in ways this is way religion is NOT a blanket protection, it never has been and never will be,

    and its protection will always end where others rights begin.
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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Until you can find a reason to allow that cake shop owner and wedding photographer refusing to serve someone on the basis of race, then you cannot permit someone to do so on the basis of religious ideas.
    On the contrary, you'd have to find a reason why the cake shop owner COULDN'T refuse to serve someone on the basis of race. It's not your cake shop. Hence that word owner.

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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The Oregon Constitution addresses religious beliefs not be denied also but that didn't stop the judge from finding the bakery owners in violation. The New Mexico Constitution did the same but the photographer was found guilty by another federal judge. This legislation was a way of putting into place a law that could not be easily overturned by another federal activist judge. A person's religion starts a home, it is more than a religion per say, it is a way of life. It plays a major role on how this person runs his business. But even if she had signed it, before the ink was dry, the gay rights activist groups had their posse of lawyers in waiting and an activist judge already picked out to hear the case. We are going to need action from Congress on this one to protect religious freedoms for all persons.
    no religious beliefs for "denied" they are still free to have them

    thanks for proving us right lol

    funny how history repeats its self

    its immoral for slaves to be considered people
    its immoral for women to be equals, it goes God, than man then woman
    its immoral for blacks and whites to marry

    all those insane and mentally inept arguments failed then and they fail today, you dont get to infringe on the rights of others, sorry you want to so bad but you dont

    equal rights is winning
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    Re: Arizona anti-gay bill vetoed by governor

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    On the contrary, you'd have to find a reason why the cake shop owner COULDN'T refuse to serve someone on the basis of race. It's not your cake shop. Hence that word owner.
    on the basis of race its illegal and it infringe on rights
    facts win again

    hence you post is factually wrong
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