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    re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Let me quote:
    Which once again disregards the other views of equally educated and distinquished constitutional scholars which this author was good enough to incude in his opinion piece:

    It is no surprise, though, that this choice has its critics – as in Edward Whelan’s challenge quoted above. Aside from the complaint that this is a form of disobedience to duty, critics often suggest that it shows a lack of respect for the legislative branch – especially since, in most states and certainly at the federal level, the legislature does not have a legal right to go to court to defend its own legislative products. And, it is suggested, an attorney general is also trying to usurp the role of the courts to decide which laws are valid and which are not.

    This is not a new phenomenon in American history. And, in many cases in which attorneys general have found themselves facing this dilemma, they have found a way to ensure that the court case does go on so that the legislature’s handiwork does get its “day in court.”

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    re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Which once again disregards the other views of equally educated and distinquished constitutional scholars which this author was good enough to incude in his opinion piece:
    This is something that has been done for some time by AGs, and no court has yet to rule it illegal or unconstitutional. Now look at what I was responding to:

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    Those state AGs are sworn to uphold the laws and Constitutions of their states. What Holder is suggesting is unethical and illegal.
    He is in fact factually incorrect in saying it is illegal, and unethical is merely his opinion.
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    Well if its decided it is to be banned would you sit down and be quiet? Don't answer that I know your answer, only you're rights matter so there'll never be an end to the nonsense. We don't have to accept you we just have to tolerate you.
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    nobody can "disobey" this law i dont understand?
    how could one disobey it?

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    re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is something that has been done for some time by AGs, and no court has yet to rule it illegal or unconstitutional. Now look at what I was responding to:



    He is in fact factually incorrect in saying it is illegal, and unethical is merely his opinion.
    As has been noted by Agent J of all people, the states may differ slightly in oath and ennumerated duty for their Attorney Generals. The article dealt primarily with the US Attorney General. A distinction with a difference. It may indeed be the case, as is mentioned in the Texas links posted, that taking such a dodge may in fact be illegal for some state's attorney generals.

    As to unethical, that's largely an opinion based value as it stands. I agree with WCH and do find the tactic unethical. What will tell the final story is if the voters agree with us or you come the next election for AG in the state.

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    I am encouraged by this ruling. The Bible says that the perverse will continue to get more ungodly. I expect nothing less of the limp-wristed here in Texas.

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    re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by sneakosview View Post
    Well if its decided it is to be banned would you sit down and be quiet?
    2.)Don't answer that I know your answer, only you're rights matter so there'll never be an end to the nonsense.
    3.) We don't have to accept you we just have to tolerate you.
    1.) decide it where in a lower court? a states court? scotus? youll have to be more specific
    2.) bam and there it is theres the melt down and rant

    multiple things

    any rights im fighting for since im not gay are also YOUR rights, they are not mine LMAO, equal rights is for all of us FAIL
    how could you possible argue that equal rights is a negative against your rights? id love to hear that fail 2
    the people fighting for equal rights and not or not fighting against them are the only ones being "tolerant" lol fail 3

    cant fight against them an be tolerant

    anything else i need to catch you up too?
    when you calm down please come back and bring up something accurate this time, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I am encouraged by this ruling. The Bible says that the perverse will continue to get more ungodly. I expect nothing less of the limp-wristed here in Texas.
    Typical Texas mentality. Precisely why I can't stand Texas. Other than Austin.

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    re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    1.)As has been noted by Agent J of all people, the states may differ slightly in oath and ennumerated duty for their Attorney Generals.
    2.) The article dealt primarily with the US Attorney General. A distinction with a difference.
    3.)It may indeed be the case, as is mentioned in the Texas links posted, that taking such a dodge may in fact be illegal for some state's attorney generals.

    4.)As to unethical, that's largely an opinion based value as it stands. I agree with WCH and do find the tactic unethical.
    5.)What will tell the final story is if the voters agree with us or you come the next election for AG in the state.
    1.) true
    2.) not sure if that was reddresses argument so i cant speak for her
    3.) the article mentioned that other texas AGs did so in the past for constitutional things, so it would seem that by the article texas allows it but again ill only agree with that when texas law, the constitution and the AG oath is presented. The article doesnt carry lots of weight unless it refers to those tings IMO.

    "Jim Mattox, who served as attorney general from 1983 to 1991, withdrew an appeal in the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that his predecessor had filed after Texas’ anti-sodomy law was deemed unconstitutional. Mattox refused to continue with his office's defense of the anti-sodomy law because Mattox also believed it was unconstitutional." Nothign happens so im "GUESSING" he was found to be within his legal limits

    4.) correct just an opinion not based on law that we have seen yet
    5.) that wont tell any story in reality as far as legality
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    re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) you mispoke TWICE and brought up holder and now are beginning up texas AG which has nothing to do with gay marriage? right if you say so
    2.) no its not theres nothing you have posted that supports your factually wrong blanket statement

    if you want your statement to be true YOU do your homework and prove it lol that not my job lol

    until then at best you are guessing and going off the other AGs your are likely wrong
    I give up... you just can plain not read.
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    re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Well you are having trouble reading, I'm sorry let me help you. It's a "law" will you obey it, key word being "law". I certainly don't know what motivates you and don't care but I doubt we have very much in common. Well I don't agree it's my right to have religious beliefs that are superceeded by a "feel-good" liberal agendas. That said I still am obligated to obey the "law". Break out your bong and relax.
    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) decide it where in a lower court? a states court? scotus? youll have to be more specific
    2.) bam and there it is theres the melt down and rant

    multiple things

    any rights im fighting for since im not gay are also YOUR rights, they are not mine LMAO, equal rights is for all of us FAIL
    how could you possible argue that equal rights is a negative against your rights? id love to hear that fail 2
    the people fighting for equal rights and not or not fighting against them are the only ones being "tolerant" lol fail 3

    cant fight against them an be tolerant

    anything else i need to catch you up too?
    when you calm down please come back and bring up something accurate this time, thanks!

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