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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    IIRC, I don't believe I asked anyone to cohere to my beliefs or values during this thread. But, one couldn't tell that from the responses.
    In general when I reply to posts like yours I at least in the beginning add that people are entitled to their personal beliefs and to pratice them.

    In this thread I did so and also asked how SSM would *affect* your marriage and if it would keep you from practicing your beliefs.

    But your beliefs...are not relevant to law unless you can show harm or restriction to them. And as you can see from responses, if you want to 'force' your belief system on others, you have to show just cause.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    IIRC, I don't believe I asked anyone to cohere to my beliefs or values during this thread. But, one couldn't tell that from the responses.
    BTW, by endorsing keeping gays from marrying, you are indicating you would force others to cohere to your beliefs and values.

    Are you not clear on that?


    Are you not clear that millions of other Americans dont share those same beliefs and values?
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    so you cant ignore sin and allow it and their are laws that deal with things you consider sinful

    and your not trying to force the dictates of your faith on any one

    how's that work?

    He and millions of other Christians already do...and attend their weddings. All the fornicators and adulterers....they attend THEIR weddings.

    Any couple that had sex before marriage are fornicators, certainly those that lived together before marriage.

    I have yet to hear why it's ok for them to marry but gays, not so much. They arent supposed to treat any of those sins any differently.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Irony. It's what's for breakfast.
    I never got a chance to 'urge' before being attacked for my faith. Go figure.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You are asking people to do just that when you vote against same-sex marriage. Voting against someone else's rights is not just expressing your beliefs, it's taking action.

    Conversely, two dudes getting married in no way affects your beliefs. They are not forcing anything upon you, because the state recognizing their union doesn't affect you.

    You can believe that two dudes getting married is wrong, that's your choice. Your belief on the matter doesn't harm others, so it's no business of mine demanding that the government ban your beliefs. It's the action you take that harms others.
    Sin effects everyone around it and everyone who supports it. Sorry you don't see that.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    BTW, by endorsing keeping gays from marrying, you are indicating you would force others to cohere to your beliefs and values.

    Are you not clear on that?


    Are you not clear that millions of other Americans dont share those same beliefs and values?
    Too bad, millions of Americans don't find anything wrong with theft or assault but, they are definitely wrong just like you..
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Sin effects everyone around it and everyone who supports it. Sorry you don't see that.
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    Too bad, millions of Americans don't find anything wrong with theft or assault but, they are definitely wrong just like you..
    You are unable to articulate any specific, harmful effect same-sex marriage has on you, or anybody else. Therefore there is absolutely no reason for any court, or any real American for that matter, to entertain the notion. The comparison to theft is ridiculous and you know it. Theft has a victim. Same-sex marriage does not. You also need to stop pretending you're just being "attacked for your faith" or that you're just "expressing a belief."

    You are actively working against the rights of others, that's why you're being "attacked."
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Too bad, millions of Americans don't find anything wrong with theft or assault but, they are definitely wrong just like you..
    But no one that has committed theft or assault is prohibited from marrying. Why do you not advocate that those that have committed theft or assualt also be denied the right to marry as you do gay people?

    You pick and choose whom to deny marrage to based on your self-serving, self-righteous, subjective and capricious reasoning of sin. At least be consistant in your dogma.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    One day you'll all be judged for who and what you support.

    If you don't believe that then the scripture I posted is not for you.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Too bad, millions of Americans don't find anything wrong with theft or assault but, they are definitely wrong just like you..
    Again...you cannot explain why you and other Christians are not waging war against fornicators and adulterers being allowed to marry. The Bible said these sins, along with laying with a man, are judged (by Him) all the same. If you claim you dont support SSM because they are sinners, you dont have a real reason.

    And you do not see the difference between *crimes* that harm people and things that *do no harm?* (And btw, fornication and adultery DO harm others)

    If homosexuality is doing harm, you have not demonstrated it....that's ok...no one else has either.

    We're back to hypocrisy. Not all sinners, just gays. Not doing harm except personal offense (not an infringement on rights anywhere).
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