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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You can set the example for your progeny, I'll take care of mine. I don't consider same sex relationships or homosexuality sinful and it is my right to teach my children that they aren't. No one is preventing you from teaching your children that it is sinful, but you have no right to have the government endorse your belief of what is sinful and enshrine that in law.
    Exactly. If my kid were born gay, I would want him or her to be able to marry the person they loved, so it's NOT an example I'd want to teach my kids.

    I'd NEVER teach my kid, if born gay, that they were born a sinner and could NEVER enjoy an intimate relationship with the person they loved. It's bad enough the society has ****ed up so many kids treating them like crap and defectives but to imagine parents doing so...."I'm sorry, you are irreparably broken and an abomination before God." That just disgusts me. As do efforts to brainwash them otherwise.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The people who want to restrict others in having their right to enter into a contract because they wrongfully believe they are entitled to the sole definition of the word "marriage" and what it entails are the problem.
    Those 'victims' were given the choice of a civil union or some other sort of domestic partnership

    MARRIAGE is a religious sacrament*

    Definition of sacrament (n)
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    religious rite or ceremony: in Christianity, a rite that is considered to have been established by Jesus Christ to bring grace to those participating in or receiving it.
    consecrated items: the bread and wine consecrated at Communion
    something sacred: something considered to be sacred or to have a special significance

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You can set the example for your progeny, I'll take care of mine. I don't consider same sex relationships or homosexuality sinful and it is my right to teach my children that they aren't. No one is preventing you from teaching your children that it is sinful, but you have no right to have the government endorse your belief of what is sinful and enshrine that in law.
    Neither do you.


    Quit trying to hijack marriage and I'll think about it.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You cannot prove either of these contentions. They are merely your beliefs, nothing more. And while you are entitled to them, the rest of us are entitled to believe you are wrong about them.
    Duh....
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those 'victims' were given the choice of a civil union or some other sort of domestic partnership

    MARRIAGE is a religious sacrament*

    Definition of sacrament (n)
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    sac·ra·ment[ sákrəmənt ]
    religious rite or ceremony: in Christianity, a rite that is considered to have been established by Jesus Christ to bring grace to those participating in or receiving it.
    consecrated items: the bread and wine consecrated at Communion
    something sacred: something considered to be sacred or to have a special significance

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    Marriage - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    the relationship that exists between a husband and a wife

    : a similar relationship between people of the same sex

    : a ceremony in which two people are married to each other

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    (broadly) any of the diverse forms of interpersonal union established in various parts of the world to form a familial bond that is recognized legally, religiously, or socially, granting the participating partners mutual conjugal rights and responsibilities and including, for example, opposite-sex marriage, same-sex marriage, plural marriage, and arranged marriage:, Anthropologists say that some type of marriage has been found in every known human society since ancient times.

    Marriage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Marriage (also called matrimony or wedlock) is a socially or ritually recognized union or legal contract between spouses that establishes rights and obligations between them, between them and their children, and between them and their in-laws.[1] The definition of marriage varies according to different cultures, but it is principally an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually intimate and sexual, are acknowledged. In some cultures, marriage is recommended or considered to be compulsory before pursuing any sexual activity. When defined broadly, marriage is considered a cultural universal.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those 'victims' were given the choice of a civil union or some other sort of domestic partnership

    MARRIAGE is a religious sacrament*

    Definition of sacrament (n)
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    sac·ra·ment[ sákrəmənt ]
    religious rite or ceremony: in Christianity, a rite that is considered to have been established by Jesus Christ to bring grace to those participating in or receiving it.
    consecrated items: the bread and wine consecrated at Communion
    something sacred: something considered to be sacred or to have a special significance

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    So this means you want non-Christians barred from marriage, right?
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those 'victims' were given the choice of a civil union or some other sort of domestic partnership

    MARRIAGE is a religious sacrament*

    Definition of sacrament (n)
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    sac·ra·ment[ sákrəmənt ]
    religious rite or ceremony: in Christianity, a rite that is considered to have been established by Jesus Christ to bring grace to those participating in or receiving it.
    consecrated items: the bread and wine consecrated at Communion
    something sacred: something considered to be sacred or to have a special significance

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    A very good point. The Unitarian Church marries gay couples in accordance with their religious beliefs. You want the government to interfere with their religious ceremonies by making gay marriage illegal. Funny how you end being a filthy statist yourself.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those 'victims' were given the choice of a civil union or some other sort of domestic partnership
    No they ****ing weren't. When push comes to shove, people like you vote against civil unions. You put in constitutional amendments that prevent same-sex marriage and same-sex civil unions. Don't act like you made this generous offer and those malcontent gays rejected your gracious efforts. You never gave anyone that choice. You imposed your beliefs onto them. And where do you get off offering someone civil rights? They're not yours to grant or deny. The word is not yours.

    MARRIAGE is a religious sacrament*

    Definition of sacrament (n)
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    sac·ra·ment[ sákrəmənt ]
    religious rite or ceremony: in Christianity, a rite that is considered to have been established by Jesus Christ to bring grace to those participating in or receiving it.
    consecrated items: the bread and wine consecrated at Communion
    something sacred: something considered to be sacred or to have a special significance

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    That's what the word means to you. Because you are a Christian. I am not. Why am I legally bound by Christian traditions?

    Nobody is hijacking anything. Your marriage is not damaged in any way by two men getting married. Their use of the same word does not affect your marriage, your love, or your beliefs. It does not affect your religion or your relationship with your God. So tell me, just what the **** is your problem? What harm is caused that you're so valiantly trying to prevent?

    If some ancient Mayans come back from the dead and perform a sun-worshiping ceremony and they call it a marriage, is that an attack on the institution of marriage?
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those 'victims' were given the choice of a civil union or some other sort of domestic partnership

    MARRIAGE is a religious sacrament*

    Definition of sacrament (n)
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    sac·ra·ment[ sákrəmənt ]
    religious rite or ceremony: in Christianity, a rite that is considered to have been established by Jesus Christ to bring grace to those participating in or receiving it.
    consecrated items: the bread and wine consecrated at Communion
    something sacred: something considered to be sacred or to have a special significance

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    It's been clearly pointed out to you that the state could not care less about religious sanctity...as proven by their willingness to hand them out without QUESTION to murderers, felons IN JAIL, fornicators, adulterers, child abusers (and so on) and practitioners of ALL varieties of other and no religion.

    So there is no basis in that for depriving gays.

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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those 'victims' were given the choice of a civil union or some other sort of domestic partnership

    MARRIAGE is a religious sacrament*

    Definition of sacrament (n)
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    sac·ra·ment[ sákrəmənt ]
    religious rite or ceremony: in Christianity, a rite that is considered to have been established by Jesus Christ to bring grace to those participating in or receiving it.
    consecrated items: the bread and wine consecrated at Communion
    something sacred: something considered to be sacred or to have a special significance

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    Wrong.

    No civil unions are the exact same as marriages.

    And I don't give two cents what your religious definition is of sacrament because I am married and I don't consider my marriage to be a sacrament at all. Some same sex couples are Catholic and would consider their marriage a sacrament. The rite you are talking about is the marriage ceremony done in a Catholic church, not the marriage we are discussing here. Not all opposite sex marriages are sacraments, no matter your personal feelings on this issue.

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    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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