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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    My 'state' has done it's damnedest to NOT recognize SSM or polygamy. That is also the 'state' that gave us a marriage license which makes one legally married.

    My vows to my God and my Wife have nothing to do with that. There's the sanctity.

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    So then why cant the state recognize SSM? You keep saying how it affects the sanctity of marriage, I point out that it really doesnt, and then you turn around and agree.

    Marriage is now a state contract...why cant gays get married like other sinners? Are you validating fornication and adulterers and murderers when they marry? If not, then you are not validating any sin you associate with being gay.

    Or, as I said, it's hypocritical.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    It saves a lot of time to just act ignorant. I do it well that's why I've been married 39yrs.
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    LOL your posts are so random I have no idea what the original intent was. Nor do I care. You seem to be bent on defending it tho

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Because as Christians are not suppose to ignore sin and allow it to fester.
    So get out there and kill some gays, man.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    My 'state' has done it's damnedest to NOT recognize SSM or polygamy. That is also the 'state' that gave us a marriage license which makes one legally married.

    My vows to my God and my Wife have nothing to do with that. There's the sanctity.

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    Precisely. Your vows to God have nothing to do with that. The state's recognition wasn't really the part that's important to you. Your love for your wife and your love for your God are the important part. So why does it bother you so much if the state recognizes same-sex marriage? How does that affect you and your marriage? Does it make you love your wife less? Your children, if any? Does it make you more likely to get divorced? Is the sanctity of your marriage, your love, undermined in any way by someone else getting recognized by the state? How can marriage be under attack if your marriage is just as strong today as it was yesterday?

    Can you articulate any kind of specific harm caused by two dudes you've never met being recognized as family by the state?

    If you can't, I'd like you to consider the possibility that, as an American, your personal disapproval is not in itself cause to make something illegal for another person.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So then why cant the state recognize SSM? You keep saying how it affects the sanctity of marriage, I point out that it really doesnt, and then you turn around and agree.

    Marriage is now a state contract...why cant gays get married like other sinners? Are you validating fornication and adulterers and murderers when they marry? If not, then you are not validating any sin you associate with being gay.

    Or, as I said, it's hypocritical.
    Sinners come in many forms in Christianity. Why single out gays?

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Is there anything in your world that doesn't meet the equal protection clause in the Constitution? You can apply equal protection to just about anything you want for in your world there is no such thing as the will of the people or laws created by the people. What is rather frustrating is that no where in the Constitution is marriage or sexual orientation defined thus leaving it up to the states. The SC has not ruled against the states' rights to create their own laws as long as it doesn't violate the Constitution. In no case has the SC defined marriage or ruled on the validity of the state definition of marriage thus leaving it to the states to decide.

    The fact remains, with all the problems facing this country a very small vocal minority has made this issue their main priority and what they are going to do is force a definition of marriage into the Constitution and this being a nation founded upon Christian principles is going to force the people to react accordingly. I sincerely feel sorry for people who cannot accept civil unions or domestic partnerships but have to call attention to themselves and their sexual activity.
    Dishonest. Civil unions were not accepted by YOUR side. There are about 20 states with constitutional bans against civil unions. The gay rights folks did not pass those bans. So you can shove that BS.

    It is a sad state of affairs in a country with a 17.3 trillion dollar debt, over 20 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, record numbers dependent on the taxpayers for some kind of assistance from the taxpayers, stagnant GDP growth that this topic always gets maximum responses in this forum by people who apparently have nothing else to do or worry about.
    This just in...the world has problems. But wait...it has always had problems and always will. So I guess we should ignore any issue that you do not like until all the problems in the world go away. That sure makes sense.

    When you destroy the rule of law, you destroy the foundation upon which this country was built. When you destroy the definition of marriage you destroy the states' rights to administer a state issue, and when you evoke the Equal Protection clause on an issue that doesn't even apply and let activist justices rule in your favor you take this country down a very slippery slope. What is next marriage of family members?
    Newsflash...sodomy is legal and incest is not. Next.

    What this continues to show is liberalism to be the disease it is and one that is the biggest threat ever to this country today. When you liberals realize what you have done it will be too late to save it. Guess that goes to show exactly what the education system has created and why we have the govt. today that we have, one where you enforce the laws you want to enforce, get some activist judge to give you want you want, and destroy the moral and ethical fabric that made this country the greatest on the face of the earth. You activist liberals must be very proud of yourselves. I really fear for my grandkids if this is the major issue facing this country.
    Dehumanizing those who think differently than you? That ends well.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Up until a few years ago, marriage was always a man and a woman. [male and female]

    Marriage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Again this isn't about equality so y'all can give up on trying to convince me it is.
    Up til almost the middle of the last century, marriage was one man turning over his daughter to another without her having very much say in it and certainly not being equal to her husband when it came to rights she had in the marriage (heck, it wasn't until about the 80s when people realized it is still rape even if the couple are married and that a marriage license is not an anytime-use permission slip for sex).
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    THE STATE is the problem. [as in the FedGov.] deciding what is best for us.
    The people who want to restrict others in having their right to enter into a contract because they wrongfully believe they are entitled to the sole definition of the word "marriage" and what it entails are the problem.
    Last edited by roguenuke; 03-01-14 at 12:21 PM.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It doesn't set a good example for our prodigy for us to except sin.

    I almost lost the relationship with my oldest daughter because she was indoctrinated into believing homosexuals were more important than her parents. I don't plan on my grandchildren reaching that point.
    You can set the example for your progeny, I'll take care of mine. I don't consider same sex relationships or homosexuality sinful and it is my right to teach my children that they aren't. No one is preventing you from teaching your children that it is sinful, but you have no right to have the government endorse your belief of what is sinful and enshrine that in law.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Because like the state, SSM is inherently evil.
    You cannot prove either of these contentions. They are merely your beliefs, nothing more. And while you are entitled to them, the rest of us are entitled to believe you are wrong about them.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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