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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

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    What gives the minority the right to over-rule the majority's decision? And again this is just one judge's opinion.
    The majority in this case wishes to limit the benefits and priviliges of the minority. What gives the majority the right to do that?

    I have yet to see anyone explain how SSM does harm to anyone or anything.
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    If this is ok, rationalize rationalize, then that must be ok and if that's ok, rationalize rationalize, then anything goes. What do I think will come through the "metaphorical" floodgates? Its as boundless as the human mind is.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    What gives the minority the right to over-rule the majority's decision? And again this is just one judge's opinion.
    Majorities change all the time. But regardless, the US Constitution gives the minority that right. That is why we are not a true democracy. The US Constitution protects our rights from being violated by a vote of a simple majority, even when it is the states taking those votes.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They made that vote many years ago.

    And, Virginians and South Carolinians voted (in some way) to ban interracial marriages. How did that work out for them?
    Those things are not comparable. If we accept that they were, it would leave the door open for any sort of behavior to become normal.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    What gives the minority the right to over-rule the majority's decision? And again this is just one judge's opinion.
    And if the majority tomorrow decided slavery was ok again you'd be ok with that?

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those things are not comparable. If we accept that they were, it would leave the door open for any sort of behavior to become normal.
    What is wrong with behavior that harms no one else? Esp. a completely natural behavior for them? It's not like they are acting out intentionally. And most certainly, what business of the govt's should ever prohibit it or exclude it from the same rights and privileges of other Americans?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Majorities change all the time. But regardless, the US Constitution gives the minority that right. That is why we are not a true democracy. The US Constitution protects our rights from being violated by a vote of a simple majority, even when it is the states taking those votes.
    Does it allow one activist judge the ability to speak for all of us? I think not.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    And if the majority tomorrow decided slavery was ok again you'd be ok with that?
    Exactly...segregation and equal civil rights for blacks had to be forced on many states.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Does it allow one activist judge the ability to speak for all of us? I think not.
    And if it was one 'activist' judge that turned the decision your way?

    Yeah.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Those things are not comparable. If we accept that they were, it would leave the door open for any sort of behavior to become normal.
    They are comparable. You simply do not wish to recognize the comparison because you are against same sex couples, but not interracial couples. Being in an interracial relationship was not (and still isn't in plenty of places in this country) considered "normal". My own grandparents felt it was wrong. My best friend's grandmother (who raised and had custody of her) did not allow her to date black boys (in fact, if her grandmother had found out that she hung out with me and my black boyfriend during high school, she wouldn't have been allowed to hang out with me). I've even met many young people my age who feel such relationships are wrong. They have just as much of a right to their beliefs/opinions as you do. That is why we do not base rights on what people believe or how they feel, but rather determine laws/restrictions as constitutional or not on what furthers a legitimate state interest in a measurable/observable way. Neither race nor sex/gender restrictions on marriage further any state interest.
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