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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is indeed a fundamental right to marry under the laws of the state. You are entitled to marry anyone of the opposite sex that will have you and to make anything more than that out of the ruling is wishful thinking on an issue that isn't really worth the effort other than malcontents throwing a tantrum.
    What you fail to understand is that the right of marrigae is upheld by the constituonal rights of equal protection under the law... As It was in Loving.

    One man one woman or interracial persons were not the issue, it was eqaul protection for all. The very same constitutional principles that upheld Loving are the same that will uphold SSM. Equal protection under the law.

    I though Loving would be sufficient because you argued that marriage was not in the constitution.

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    What has been explained to this point should more than suffice to establish that the principal purpose and the necessary effect of this law are to demean those persons who are in a lawful same-sex marriage. This requires the Court to hold, as it now does, that DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the liberty of the person protected by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
    The liberty protected by the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause contains within it the prohibition against denying to any person the equal protection of the laws.See Bolling, 347 U. S., at 499–500; Adarand Constructors, Inc. v. Peña, 515 U. S. 200, 217–218 (1995). While the Fifth Amendment itself withdraws from Government the power to degrade or demean in the way this law does, the equal protection guarantee of the Fourteenth Amendment makes that Fifth Amendment right all the more specific and all the better understood and preserved
    Windsor v US

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    What you fail to understand is that the right of marrigae is upheld by the constituonal rights of equal protection under the law... As It was in Loving.

    One man one woman or interracial persons were not the issue, it was eqaul protection for all. The very same constitutional principles that upheld Loving are the same that will uphold SSM. Equal protection under the law.
    I though Loving would be sufficient becasue you argued that mareriage was not in the constitution.

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    Windsor v US
    And what you fail to understand is that marriage is a state issue and you aren't being denied the right to marry but you do so under state law. Loving vs. Va was about race not gender.

    Amazing what passion some have for a title. The SC has never ruled on the definition of marriage, why don't you ask yourself why?

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And what you fail to understand is that marriage is a state issue and you aren't being denied the right to marry but you do so under state law. Loving vs. Va was about race not gender.

    Amazing what passion some have for a title. The SC has never ruled on the definition of marriage, why don't you ask yourself why?

    Loving was not about race. If it was, what is the constitution racial principle that was used by the supreme court to overturn Virginia's racial ban? What race amendment was used in the reasoning? The 13th?
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Loving was not about race. If it was, what is the constitution racial principle that was used by the supreme court to overturn Virginia's racial ban? What race amendment was used in the reasoning? The 13th?
    That is your opinion the fact is two people wanted to get married under Va. law, one was black and the other white but both met the Va. law in that they were of the opposite sex. They were denied based upon race and that was the reason for the ruling.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Drought is all they are facing. On balance, I would say the weather in California is 110% better than in Texas. Vermont is the most liberal state in the nation yet never faces a drought, tornado, or earth quake.

    I was being tongue in cheek. Science explains your weather and natural disasters, not the sins of your citizenry. Texas could have the most God fearing and pious citizenry in the nation and you would still have extreme heat, drought, tornadoes, and hurricanes. Hawaii could turn into a modern day Sodom and would still have nice 80 degree weather every day year round. I just think its rather ironic that the most Christian states in the nation typically have the most natural disasters.
    Hey, we rarely freeze our asses off.

    Anyplace or anyone can have natural disasters but, the Lord will help you overcome.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    My explanation is that God does not actually selectively apply weather based on the political leanings or "sins" of the local population.
    Not that we would necessarily be aware of anyhow.

    According to the Bible God has done some extreme damage to sinners. Tower of Babel, Sodom, Egypt, to name a few.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Good argument!
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    How bout we make it instead that no one can marry the *opposite sex* for the next 200 years, then see you not at all blow a gasket over this equality.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    I doubt seriously he would consider a wedding cake their last hope.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Last I checked in Loving vs. Va one was a man and the other was a woman. Had nothing to do with gender but everything to do with race. Such passion you people have for this issue. Sure glad to see your priorities are straight. High unemployment, no problem, high debt, no problem, low economic growth, no problem, but focus on those social issues and all will be well. You people are really screwed up
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is indeed a fundamental right to marry under the laws of the state. You are entitled to marry anyone of the opposite sex that will have you and to make anything more than that out of the ruling is wishful thinking on an issue that isn't really worth the effort other than malcontents throwing a tantrum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is your opinion the fact is two people wanted to get married under Va. law, one was black and the other white but both met the Va. law in that they were of the opposite sex. They were denied based upon race and that was the reason for the ruling.
    And what you are failing to understand is that gender is also a protected classification.

    Also, you mention economic issues and completely ignore DEAD TROOPS OVERSEAS. What's with your priorities, worrying about economic statistics instead of dead soldiers!? Oh wait. Is it that you think both of those things are important? That someone can actually believe two things are important? Wait. Children are dying of starvation in Africa. Literally dying children. Do you think that's worthwhile too? How about the environment? Major chemical spills, can we worry about those too?

    The deflection to economic issues is the most blatant cop out I've ever seen. Don't even try to bring that weak **** up in here, son. It's a thread about same-sex marriage that you found important enough to make MANY posts in, don't try and act like you don't think this is an important issue too. If that were true, you wouldn't be here.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by sneakosview View Post
    I doubt seriously he would consider a wedding cake their last hope.
    So he wouldn't bake them a cake? Funny how there isn't a single righty here that will answer my question.

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