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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'd be fine with calling it a civil union if we did that for all marriages. Otherwise it's "seperate but equal" which is unconstitutional.

    So I wonder if you felt the same way about the legal challenge to Obamacare - malcontents who did get their way?
    You people are really brainwashed, marriage isn't in the Constitution no matter how many times you say it. As for Obamacare, that is a personal choice issue that shouldn't be handled by the Federal Govt. either and should be a state issue. You big govt. liberals are all alike

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    Changing every law concerning marriage to include civil unions is easier that removing the gender restriction?

    Seriously? There are thousands of laws that are related to marriage and the benefits and protections of marriage. There is one gender restriction per state. Are you claiming that changing 27+/- laws is more difficult than changing THOUSANDS of laws and all government forms that pertain to marital status?
    Marriage is common law, not a civil rights issue. There are a lot of common law issues so tell me what is next on the spoiled child list to overturn?

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Gender means man and woman, States have defined marriage as being between a man and a woman. You have the same rights as I have, you don't like it, take it up with states and have the states change the law, many have. Stop going to the courts. If the people of TX support SSM then so be it. Texans don't like Courts ruling on something that doesn't exist in the Constitution
    They said that about interracial marriage bans. Everyone had the same right to marry someone of the same race.

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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You people are really brainwashed, marriage isn't in the Constitution no matter how many times you say it. As for Obamacare, that is a personal choice issue that shouldn't be handled by the Federal Govt. either and should be a state issue. You big govt. liberals are all alike
    Equal protection is, no matter how much you wish otherwise.

    It's a gender-based distinction to define marriage as between a man and a woman. Therefore it is subject to challenge under equal protection, thus forcing the state to justify that distinction. You can whine about it all you want, but this is how equal protection works in this country and there's a century of case law backing me up.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You people are really brainwashed, marriage isn't in the Constitution no matter how many times you say it. As for Obamacare, that is a personal choice issue that shouldn't be handled by the Federal Govt. either and should be a state issue. You big govt. liberals are all alike
    Separate but equal is unconstitutional. According to the Supreme Court at least. This was a state law, which was challenged. Texas does have to follow the Constitution, I'm sorry if you don't like it.

    You're calling me brainwashed? You're the one who likes court challenges when you don't like the law, but if you do it's "malcontents not getting their way." Keep drinking that red Kool Aid.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They said that about interracial marriage bans. Everyone had the same right to marry someone of the same race.

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    Well that was different because, you know, it just was.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They said that about interracial marriage bans. Everyone had the same right to marry someone of the same race.

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    Last I checked in Loving vs. Va one was a man and the other was a woman. Had nothing to do with gender but everything to do with race. Such passion you people have for this issue. Sure glad to see your priorities are straight. High unemployment, no problem, high debt, no problem, low economic growth, no problem, but focus on those social issues and all will be well. You people are really screwed up

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Separate but equal is unconstitutional. According to the Supreme Court at least. This was a state law, which was challenged. Texas does have to follow the Constitution, I'm sorry if you don't like it.

    You're calling me brainwashed? You're the one who likes court challenges when you don't like the law, but if you do it's "malcontents not getting their way." Keep drinking that red Kool Aid.
    Except when it comes to common law and state issues. you don't like the law change it in the states, quit looking to the courts to do the work for you.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You people are really brainwashed, marriage isn't in the Constitution no matter how many times you say it. As for Obamacare, that is a personal choice issue that shouldn't be handled by the Federal Govt. either and should be a state issue. You big govt. liberals are all alike
    Marriage is a fundament right that predates the US constitution. Just as the right to self defense does also. Those are right held by the people for eons prior to 1787.

    Marriage is a quarenteed rights upheld countless times in American Jurisprudence precent. The Spreme court in Loving v Virginia ruling made marriage a right protected by the US Constitution.

    Cheif Justic Earl Warren:

    Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.
    That is pretty clear marriage is a fundamental right protected by the US Constitution.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Marriage is a fundament right that predates the US constitution. Just as the right to self defense does also. Those are right held by the people for eons prior to 1787.

    Marriage is a quarenteed right upheld countless times in American Jurisprudence precent. The Spreme court in Loving v Virginia ruling made marriage a right protected by the US Constitution.



    That is pretty clear marriage is a fundamental right protected by the US Constitution.
    It is indeed a fundamental right to marry under the laws of the state. You are entitled to marry anyone of the opposite sex that will have you and to make anything more than that out of the ruling is wishful thinking on an issue that isn't really worth the effort other than malcontents throwing a tantrum.

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