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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Boom! Beat me to the punch.
    Loving vs Va was all about race discrimination not sexual orientation

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Loving vs Va was all about race discrimination not sexual orientation
    Race is a protected class. Laws saying that races can only marry their own race are unconstitutional.
    Gender is a protected class. Laws saying that you have to marry a specific gender are unconstitutional.

    There are no laws that say homosexuals (sexual orientation) can not marry.
    There ARE laws that say a man and a man (gender) can not marry.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by sneakosview View Post
    Reading your posts is a challenge and even harder because you don't comprehend what your reading. Hypothetically speaking if there was a law you didn't agree with would you obey it.(for crying out loud) The religious belief that homosexuality is a sin is quite clear all over the bible and to ask a Christian to set a side they're beliefs for deviate behavior is intolerant.
    Would Christ refuse to feed a homosexual?

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, actually is it the malcontents like you and other supporters of SSM
    The hardcore cons keep buying their own BS. Even many of the red states are seeing the light.

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    Race is a protected class. Laws saying that races can only marry their own race are unconstitutional.
    Gender is a protected class. Laws saying that you have to marry a specific gender are unconstitutional.

    There are no laws that say homosexuals (sexual orientation) can not marry.
    There ARE laws that say a man and a man (gender) can not marry.
    Yes, race is a protected class, the issue was a man and a woman wanting to get married in Va. They met the laws of the state but were denied based upon race. That is why it was overturned, has nothing to do with SSM

    Yes, there are laws against SSM, those laws are being changed int he states and that is where the issue belongs. You change the laws in 50 states, so be it, but stay out of the courts. As it stands right now, in TX you have the same rights as I have, to marry someone of the opposite sex that will have you. No discrimination, state law

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    The hardcore cons keep buying their own BS. Even many of the red states are seeing the light.
    Red states are being forced by the courts to do something they disagree with and that is the problem. This is a state issue, change state law in 50 states. Seems the SC agrees with me, this is a state issue

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The SC has never ruled on the definition of marriage allowing the states to do that. They have had numerous opportunities to do so and have declined. They have always been partial to the state decisions on their own laws and have remain loyal to that opinion allowing the number of states to pass SSM decisions. That is where this issue belongs and always has belonged, not in the courts. You tell me why it is so important to overturn centuries of common law and the basics of the Bible and Christianity starting with Genesis where Adam and Eve were created and a wife mentioned. What possible benefit could a SS Couple get out of the term marriage that they couldn't get out of a Civil Union or Domestic Partnership? Why do a small vocal minority deserve this much attention on an issue that isn't in the Constitution?
    Have to love your logic- though it has been shot down repeatedly it is doggedly represented.

    First it doesn't interfere with Christians defining their Unions as marriage. If we are so hotted up over literal interpretation of the Bible then incest seems to be ok as how do you get from two people to what we have now? Same Sex couples get the same benefit any other married couple gets, the ability to name their game. Would 'straight' couples happy with Civil Union? I'm married (to a woman), I got married in a Judge's office, no Church involved and no desire to have it 'blessed' by a religious figure- I don't see why anyone could object to anyone (of age, sound mind etc) getting married no matter the place or number of similar/differing sex parts involved.

    Be careful how you use the Constitution... it doesn't limit or define a citizen's rights but the limits of Government. Many founders felt if only a few Rights were listed in the Constitution then someone will come along later and decide these few are the ONLY. Not true. The 10th keeps the door open for other rights to be decided.

    Next the Constitution has a stance on this, the 14th, sec 1. Throw in Jefferson asking does it pick my pocket or break my leg and we are done.

    I am having a tough time finding where the Supreme Court has declined to rule on the definition of marriage, when did they do that?

    Perhaps like art, the Supreme Court may not know what marriage is, but they know what it ain't- and it ain't just restricted to men and women of the heterosexual persuasion.

    But it appears now the Supreme Court is ready to step up and strike down a bushel basket of 'protect heterosexual marriage' laws.

    Better late than never....

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Red states are being forced by the courts to do something they disagree with and that is the problem.
    So the courts forced the AZ gov to veto that bill? Who knew?

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Would Christ refuse to feed a homosexual?
    Wow, getting desperate now, equating marriage which is common law to eating which is a requirement to live. Gay couples will survive without having the title of married but not survive if they don't eat. Your statement has to be a joke

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, race is a protected class, the issue was a man and a woman wanting to get married in Va. They met the laws of the state but were denied based upon race. That is why it was overturned, has nothing to do with SSM

    Yes, there are laws against SSM, those laws are being changed int he states and that is where the issue belongs. You change the laws in 50 states, so be it, but stay out of the courts. As it stands right now, in TX you have the same rights as I have, to marry someone of the opposite sex that will have you. No discrimination, state law
    The courts are there specifically for this purpose. Their JOB is to determine the constitutionality of laws.

    I see you didn't respond to the FACT the gender is a protected class, and laws against same sex marriage are based on GENDER since no state bans a homosexual (sexual orientation) from getting married.

    At one time states had marriage laws regarding the race you were allowed to marry. They were found to be unconstitutional through the courts doing their job.
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