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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You mean the people who refuse to defend laws in their state constitutions that they believe violates the US Constitution? I think they know.
    Is there anything in your world that doesn't meet the equal protection clause in the Constitution? You can apply equal protection to just about anything you want for in your world there is no such thing as the will of the people or laws created by the people. What is rather frustrating is that no where in the Constitution is marriage or sexual orientation defined thus leaving it up to the states. The SC has not ruled against the states' rights to create their own laws as long as it doesn't violate the Constitution. In no case has the SC defined marriage or ruled on the validity of the state definition of marriage thus leaving it to the states to decide.

    The fact remains, with all the problems facing this country a very small vocal minority has made this issue their main priority and what they are going to do is force a definition of marriage into the Constitution and this being a nation founded upon Christian principles is going to force the people to react accordingly. I sincerely feel sorry for people who cannot accept civil unions or domestic partnerships but have to call attention to themselves and their sexual activity.

    It is a sad state of affairs in a country with a 17.3 trillion dollar debt, over 20 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, record numbers dependent on the taxpayers for some kind of assistance from the taxpayers, stagnant GDP growth that this topic always gets maximum responses in this forum by people who apparently have nothing else to do or worry about.

    When you destroy the rule of law, you destroy the foundation upon which this country was built. When you destroy the definition of marriage you destroy the states' rights to administer a state issue, and when you evoke the Equal Protection clause on an issue that doesn't even apply and let activist justices rule in your favor you take this country down a very slippery slope. What is next marriage of family members?

    What this continues to show is liberalism to be the disease it is and one that is the biggest threat ever to this country today. When you liberals realize what you have done it will be too late to save it. Guess that goes to show exactly what the education system has created and why we have the govt. today that we have, one where you enforce the laws you want to enforce, get some activist judge to give you want you want, and destroy the moral and ethical fabric that made this country the greatest on the face of the earth. You activist liberals must be very proud of yourselves. I really fear for my grandkids if this is the major issue facing this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    We'd only have to look as far as California to say the same. Being the political climate is reversed from Texas....explain that.
    My explanation is that God does not actually selectively apply weather based on the political leanings or "sins" of the local population.
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Is there anything in your world that doesn't meet the equal protection clause in the Constitution? You can apply equal protection to just about anything you want for in your world there is no such thing as the will of the people or laws created by the people. What is rather frustrating is that no where in the Constitution is marriage or sexual orientation defined thus leaving it up to the states. The SC has not ruled against the states' rights to create their own laws as long as it doesn't violate the Constitution. In no case has the SC defined marriage or ruled on the validity of the state definition of marriage thus leaving it to the states to decide.
    Equal protection is not a blanket authority to do anything. And nobody is arguing that it is.

    Gender is a protected classification. Equal protection applies. Don't like it? Try Saudi Arabia.

    What is same sex marriage going to do to your poor grandchildren?
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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Equal protection is not a blanket authority to do anything. And nobody is arguing that it is.

    Gender is a protected classification. Equal protection applies. Don't like it? Try Saudi Arabia.

    What is same sex marriage going to do to your poor grandchildren?
    Gender means man and woman, States have defined marriage as being between a man and a woman. You have the same rights as I have, you don't like it, take it up with states and have the states change the law, many have. Stop going to the courts. If the people of TX support SSM then so be it. Texans don't like Courts ruling on something that doesn't exist in the Constitution

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Gender means man and woman, States have defined marriage as being between a man and a woman. You have the same rights as I have, you don't like it, take it up with states and have the states change the law, many have. Stop going to the courts. If the people of TX support SSM then so be it. Texans don't like Courts ruling on something that doesn't exist in the Constitution
    Who decides the constitutionality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Who decides the constitutionality?
    The SC and they haven't ruled on the definition of Marriage and have always sided with the states in allowing them to administer their own laws

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The SC and they haven't ruled on the definition of Marriage and have always sided with the states in allowing them to administer their own laws
    Before it gets to SCOTUS, where does it originate?

    Bonus question: Are you familiar with the Windsor decision?

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Before it gets to SCOTUS, where does it originate?

    Bonus question: Are you familiar with the Windsor decision?
    The SC has never ruled on the definition of marriage allowing the states to do that. They have had numerous opportunities to do so and have declined. They have always been partial to the state decisions on their own laws and have remain loyal to that opinion allowing the number of states to pass SSM decisions. That is where this issue belongs and always has belonged, not in the courts. You tell me why it is so important to overturn centuries of common law and the basics of the Bible and Christianity starting with Genesis where Adam and Eve were created and a wife mentioned. What possible benefit could a SS Couple get out of the term marriage that they couldn't get out of a Civil Union or Domestic Partnership? Why do a small vocal minority deserve this much attention on an issue that isn't in the Constitution?

    Don't give a damn about the Windsor Decision because it was a federal issue and involved federal benefits

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The SC has never ruled on the definition of marriage allowing the states to do that. They have had numerous opportunities to do so and have declined. They have always been partial to the state decisions on their own laws and have remain loyal to that opinion allowing the number of states to pass SSM decisions. That is where this issue belongs and always has belonged, not in the courts. You tell me why it is so important to overturn centuries of common law and the basics of the Bible and Christianity starting with Genesis where Adam and Eve were created and a wife mentioned. What possible benefit could a SS Couple get out of the term marriage that they couldn't get out of a Civil Union or Domestic Partnership? Why do a small vocal minority deserve this much attention on an issue that isn't in the Constitution?
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    You didn't answer my question: Before it gets to SCOTUS, where does it originate?

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    Re: Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

    I just saw the warning... dammitt...it was GOOOOOD too!!!!!

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