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    Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A Pennsylvania couple who believe in faith-healing face 20 years or more in prison in the death of a second child who died without seeing a doctor.
    Herbert and Catherine Schaible are being sentenced Wednesday in the death last year of their 8-month-old son, Brandon. At the time, they were under court orders to seek medical care for their children after their 2-year-old son, Kent, died of untreated pneumonia in 2009.
    Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    If only we could pray away the stupidity?

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    I just hope one day these intensely religious folks come to understand God can work through Doctors so praying the doctors can cure their sick child is alright by Him...

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    If only we could pray away the stupidity?
    I hope they both go to jail.

    This is a failure of the system. Perhaps now, if they have any other children, jail or not? They'll lose them.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Child abuse, resulting in homicide.

    60 yrs. in Federal Prison after sterilization.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    It's about time, this is the second kid they've killed via prayer, there needs to be a national law prohibiting prayer as a defense in any criminal case. Talking to yourself doesn't solve problems, no matter how deluded you are. These people should have been put away for the rest of their lives as a lesson to the other idiotic god-botherers out there.
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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    If only we could pray away the stupidity?
    That's what I call putting the dumb in religious freedom.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Their pastor, Nelson Clark, has said the Schaibles lost their sons because of a "spiritual lack" in their lives and insisted they would not seek medical care even if another child appeared near death.
    Fantastic. Bloody fantastic.

    Religious fundamentalism means never having to say you're sorry.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Prayers don't kill anyone...faulty religious beliefs and whatever ailment the child has does
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Prayers don't kill anyone...faulty religious beliefs and whatever ailment the child has does
    That argument works if you're making it before the invention of medicine.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    If only we could pray away the stupidity?
    A religious man is on top of a roof during a great flood. A man comes by in a boat and says "get in, get in!" The religous man replies, " no I have faith in God, he will grant me a miracle."

    Later the water is up to his waist and another boat comes by and the guy tells him to get in again. He responds that he has faith in god and god will give him a miracle. With the water at about chest high, another boat comes to rescue him, but he turns down the offer again cause "God will grant him a miracle."

    With the water at chin high, a helicopter throws down a ladder and they tell him to get in, mumbling with the water in his mouth, he again turns down the request for help for the faith of God. He arrives at the gates of heaven with broken faith and says to Peter, I thought God would grand me a miracle and I have been let down." St. Peter chuckles and responds, "I don't know what you're complaining about, we sent you three boats and a helicopter."


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