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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Using adults and non-health related examples is irrelevant to the thread.

    Unless you posted a selfie?
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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Beyond disgusting. These whackos should be condemned. People do not have the "right" to endanger others with their beliefs, regardless of whether it is their own children.

    They are no different than the bat **** crazy religious extremists over in the Middle East who make poor decisions that encourage and manipulate their children to participate in activites that they know will see them end up dead.
    Fine, then Muslims and Jews should stop mutilating their children with circumcision, amirite?

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Fine, then Muslims and Jews should stop mutilating their children with circumcision, amirite?
    Would you make that illegal for athiests too? How about pierced ears?

    We have to remain a little reasonable here and not jump into the extremist category to carry on a reasonable discussion.
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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Would you make that illegal for athiests too? How about pierced ears?

    We have to remain a little reasonable here and not jump into the extremist category to carry on a reasonable discussion.
    I wouldn't do any of those things. I'm arguing in favor of religious freedom.

    I was responding to Serenity who said the parents should be "condemned" and that parents do not have the right to endanger others with their beliefs.

    Well if she really believes that, then why is it OK for Jewish parents to cut of part of their kid's penis?

    I think it's a case of her not agreeing with this couple's particular religion, so that makes it OK to point the finger. I'm just calling out the inconsistency.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but they have the religious freedom to believe that prayer heals
    and their religious beliefs direct them to prayer for healing instead of medicine
    why do your beliefs trump theirs?
    Yes, they have the religious freedom to believe that prayer heals, just like they have the religious freedom to believe that if they plunge a knife into a random stranger's heart, it won't kill them. That doesn't mean they have the right to act on those beliefs.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Well if she really believes that, then why is it OK for Jewish parents to cut of part of their kid's penis?
    Why are you directing that comment towards me? I don't have a penis, i'm not a Jewish parent and i've never spoken out in support of circumcision.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I think it's a case of her not agreeing with this couple's particular religion, so that makes it OK to point the finger. I'm just calling out the inconsistency.
    What inconsistency are you referring to? I've made one post prior to this in the thread and i couldn't be more clearer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity
    Beyond disgusting. These whackos should be condemned. People do not have the "right" to endanger others with their beliefs, regardless of whether it is their own children.

    They are no different than the bat **** crazy religious extremists over in the Middle East who make poor decisions that encourage and manipulate their children to participate in activites that they know will see them end up dead.
    You might want to take your fascination and desire to rant about Penis's elsewhere.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    My Wife and I were commenting just last evening about the new commercials they're running during primetime. We were under the assumption one needed to be 'special' [or wealthy] to be part of their circus.
    You need to be wealthy to get higher up in the church, you essentially buy your levels of whatever BS they came up with. There are 2 types of Scientologist, idiots and scammers.
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