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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If I fall in to a lake and you don't help me, you didn't kill me.
    I sure as hell didn't do the right thing and try to prevent your death just as these parents didn't try to prevent their childrens death.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    With your logic, If you fall into a lake and I stand by offering no help to you. and just watch you drown, you've died of natural causes.
    a better analogy would be that instead of calling for the assistance of first responders, you instead offered the inadequate help of an extended arm, attempting to grasp the victim. such help, tho well intended, was inadequate for the needs of the victim
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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yeah but it all comes back to religious freedom and to whether the government really needs to be a nanny state (literally) taking care of our children.

    There's a role for government, and there's a role for parents. Unfortunately not all parents are spectacular. Same can be said for governments. I still don't like mixing the roles.
    OK. But then you used 2 unrelated examples.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    a better analogy would be that instead of calling for the assistance of first responders, you instead offered the inadequate help of an extended arm, attempting to grasp the victim. such help, tho well intended, was inadequate for the needs of the victim
    Even that's not quite right.

    It would be like refusing to feed your child under the assumption that God will feed him. Then, when the child starves to death, you call it "death through natural causes."

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    I sure as hell didn't do the right thing and try to prevent your death just as these parents didn't try to prevent their childrens death.
    Are we in the business of legislating people to do the right thing?

    If you're being assaulted in an alley and someone walks by, they have no legal obligation to help you or to call the authorities. Is it the right thing to do? Yes, but it's not a legal obligation.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    OK. But then you used 2 unrelated examples.
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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's clearly a cult and a scam, I don't see how it was allowed to be defined as a "religion".
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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Beyond disgusting. These whackos should be condemned. People do not have the "right" to endanger others with their beliefs, regardless of whether it is their own children.

    They are no different than the bat **** crazy religious extremists over in the Middle East who make poor decisions that encourage and manipulate their children to participate in activites that they know will see them end up dead.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Using adults and non-health related examples is irrelevant to the thread.

    Unless you posted a selfie?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Beyond disgusting. These whackos should be condemned. People do not have the "right" to endanger others with their beliefs, regardless of whether it is their own children.

    They are no different than the bat **** crazy religious extremists over in the Middle East who make poor decisions that encourage and manipulate their children to participate in activites that they know will see them end up dead.
    Exactly. That kind of 'thinking' is when enables some people to justify flying planes into buildings.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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