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    Re: Jason Collins played last night

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm not really sure, but at this point in the season you will see some of it. A team might sign someone to a ten day contract to fill in a hole that they need filled until some player/s come back from injury, and while much of the time the player has no shot to earn a spot on the team, if they play well they might get picked up some other team. Much of the time this is used on players that have pretty much played their way out of the league and either has no chance to really play again in the league, or someone that if they play well could very well revive their career, but I wouldn't imagine it is clear to the player many times which one they happen to be, so it's not at all rare to see them play well in the hopes it gives them another shot. For example, Manny Harris was signed to two ten day contracts with the Lakers this year after they suffered from a horde of injuries and found themselves in need of some players to fill in some roster spots. He played well, and while he was not signed on again after his second contract was up earned himself some exposer with good performances, and at least from what I saw, showed he deserved to be on an NBA roster. How his performance when signed to those two ten day contracts plays out for him in future is unknown, but for now he is back to the D-League.
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    Re: Jason Collins played last night

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    The man had a long career and he never was a big scorer. For thirteen years the GMs of the Nets (twice), Celtics, Grizzlies, Wizards, Timberwolves and Hawks knew nothing about basketball?




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    The best defense all year, and your assessment is that he sucked?
    Wow....he had a good series. 4 years ago. Hell...offer him a long term deal and get his bust ready for the hall of fame.

    4 years ago.

    Maybe some team ought to bring back Greg Ostertag. He played tough against Shaq once.

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    Re: Jason Collins played last night

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Wow....he had a good series. 4 years ago. Hell...offer him a long term deal and get his bust ready for the hall of fame.

    4 years ago.

    Maybe some team ought to bring back Greg Ostertag. He played tough against Shaq once.
    I'm not saying he's a HoFer, but he was a decent defender, and last night's performance was about right with his career averages stat wise. Stats aren't everything, but he was an OK player for a long time and suddenly everybody overreacts because he's gay. Both sides. You're like "OH, he sucked..." He didn't suck. He was a decent backup, and that's what he was brought in to be. Do we slag all the straight players who play decent D but aren't all stars?'

    Everybody's doubting it was a basketball decision, but the Nets needed a guy to come in in the short term and be a backup. I can't see how it wasn't a basketball decision.


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    Re: Jason Collins played last night

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm not saying he's a HoFer, but he was a decent defender, and last night's performance was about right with his career averages stat wise. Stats aren't everything, but he was an OK player for a long time and suddenly everybody overreacts because he's gay. Both sides. You're like "OH, he sucked..." He didn't suck. He was a decent backup, and that's what he was brought in to be. Do we slag all the straight players who play decent D but aren't all stars?'

    Everybody's doubting it was a basketball decision, but the Nets needed a guy to come in in the short term and be a backup. I can't see how it wasn't a basketball decision.
    I didnt say anything about what his career "used" to be. If they suck in their current present state, then yes...you cut them. That was your question...and the answer remains the same.

    As for the "over-reacting because he is gay" comment...dood...why do you think you started this thread in the first place? Do you make it a habit of starting threads any time some past their expiration date role player is offered a 10 day contract?

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    Re: Jason Collins played last night

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I didnt say anything about what his career "used" to be. If they suck in their current present state, then yes...you cut them. That was your question...and the answer remains the same.

    As for the "over-reacting because he is gay" comment...dood...why do you think you started this thread in the first place? Do you make it a habit of starting threads any time some past their expiration date role player is offered a 10 day contract?
    It's history no matter what you think about it. It's also something that's been discussed ad nauseum here on DP, and it's the latest news in the saga. My only reaction in the OP was, "Dude played, nobody got raped." I've not said anything about him deserving a long term deal, or that he should be in the HoF, just that he didn't suck. Last night's game seemed to be a pretty normal game for him. I'm not going to overinflate his career or it's importance, but the barrier's been broken and lo and behold, the NBA didn't fold last night, and there wasn't a big gay orgy in the Nets locker room (that we know of anyway). Life went on exactly as it did before.

    He wasn't an all-star before, and he still isn't one but the automatic reaction is "it's political" or "He sucked." He didn't suck, he never was an all-star and the Nets needed some temporary backup help on the inside. Do we call it political or slag every backup who's maybe past his expiration date signs a 10 day deal?


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    Re: Jason Collins played last night

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's reasonably common, usually with teams that can fill an injury on the free agent market.

    It's just not common for a guy to have those stats and get mentioned. Guess you have to bend over for that kind of recognition.
    What's driving that and what you're glossing over is that the gay community finally, after all this time, has *someone* to root for. No one's asking you to care. It's not about you.

    Personally i have a hard time getting super excited for 1 ppg even being the first. Michael Sam looks way more promising, if he's not totally screwed over on draft day. Perhaps this is why Collins gets this attention, because we still expect the gay athlete to be screwed like that.

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    Re: Jason Collins played last night

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Do we slag all the straight players who play decent D but aren't all stars?'
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    we would if people started making a big deal about them.
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    Re: Jason Collins played last night

    It's disgusting that the media just drills through your skull with this stuff, as if "You're going to care about this! Damnit, you're going to care about this!"

    They kept showing his TWO REBOUNDS over and over and over.

    There is nothing notable about a 10-day contract. There are piles of 10-day contracts ongoing through the year to cover injuries or for short look-sees.

    I thought the goal was to not focus on his gayness. The media won't have it. He needs a grand stage to go out and pull down those two rebounds.

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    Re: Jason Collins played last night

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    What's driving that and what you're glossing over is that the gay community finally, after all this time, has *someone* to root for. No one's asking you to care. It's not about you.
    so they gay community can only root for a player if he/she is gay? I haven't seen the gay community rooting for all those gay women golfers.
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    Re: Jason Collins played last night

    What I would like to see is a straight male figure skater. give us heteros someone to root for......
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