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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    "Let your 'Yes' be Yes and your 'No' be No." --Matthew 5:37

    It is almost always a bad idea to try to worm your way out of defending racism. I have tried. And failed. 100% of the time.
    I'd ask you to show me where I've defended racism, but I know you can't point it out. You'll continue to deflect, quote scripture, and attack straw man arguments you've only imagined I've made.

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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

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    Racism does not depend on the intent. Ever. Racism depends on the act. And considering our nation's clear history of racism against blacks, past and present, those of you who are going to try to convince us that the Ole Miss noose incident is not racism have a VERY difficult task ahead of you.
    that's idiotic. intent is what counts.



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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

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    There may be a correlation, yes, but I don't think it's as strong as we liberals perceive. Every single white American is vulnerable to engaging in racism and thus must look within himself or herself to weed out any racism that may (and probably does) still exist.
    this sounds like the stuff we hear from ex smokers about smoking

    give me a break this is PC silliness at its malignant worst



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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

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    that's idiotic. intent is what counts.

    Countdown till you are accused of being racist.

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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

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    Countdown till you are accused of being racist.

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    oh it happens every few months. When I pointed out that affirmative action allows LESS QUALIFIED black students to get into schools ahead of MORE QUALIFIED WHITE AND ASIAN students, one left-winger claimed I was saying ALL blacks are less qualified and thus I was racist

    racism is an insult that has no sting anymore because so many left-wing morons throw it around as some sort of nuke designed to destroy any argument they cannot defeat.



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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

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    I'd counter with the Cosby Show Effect. Whites with little exposure to black community have an idealized vision. What social science tells us is that multiculturalism destroys the fabric of society, so heavily multicultural societies are going to have more racial division that is seen in more homogeneous societies, or states, or cities. After all, liberals flock to Vermont and Portland and not to Detroit and Birmingham where they would have more opportunity to bite into the delicious fruit of multiculturalism.
    You know not whereof you speak. I grew up in a place with a black majority population, I have lived and worked in the West Indies, and yes I have encountered black racists but often what the tourists might call racism was just simply not understanding local culture. I am as white as being only 1/8th Native American can make me, but, I think, I know, that racism is still way too prevalent in this country.

    For those who deny that the noose incident had a racial basis, read the following from the University of Mississippi's newspaper
    “They were eyeing me all funny when they saw me, and I immediately knew they were the two I saw when I was driving in,” McMillan said. “(They) were yelling ‘white power’ and ‘f— n—–s’ on my way back over towards the statue.”

    When he rounded the corner of the George Street House, he froze. There was a rope tied like a noose around the James Meredith statue’s neck and a former Georgia state flag draped around the statue’s shoulders and back like a scarf.

    “Seeing that sent chills down my back,” he said. “I’m a 64-year-old white man that grew up in rural, backwoods Mississippi. I’ve always been a little prejudiced at times, but this changed my life. I’ll never be the same person I was, and something came over me. It’s hard to talk about my feelings, but I feel like a completely different person. This was some messed-up ****.”
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    /facepalm

    People of color do not have the privilege of escaping the racism that whites constantly fling upon them.
    You see yourself as only "slightly liberal?" You may want to rethink that designation. You're deep into the indoctrination, there's nothing slightly liberal about such incredible rhetoric.

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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's idiotic. intent is what counts.
    Hey TurtleDude, you might not want to try and defend these racists

    ... university chief of police, Calvin Sellers.

    Sellers said the University Police Department (UPD) had gathered enough evidence by lateWednesday to bring charges through the student judicial process against two of the students, and both state and federal authorities were working in close coordination to determine whether criminal charges were applicable.

    Working through an advisor to the students, university police had arranged a meeting forThursday morning, Sellers said, but the students did not appear as promised. As university police were attempting to locate the two students late Thursday, they became aware of an Oxford attorney who was representing one of the students, which then led to information that three students had retained legal counsel.
    Anybody want to bet that the Ole Miss Sigma Phi Epsilon chapter had zero members of colour?
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Hey TurtleDude, you might not want to try and defend these racists



    Anybody want to bet that the Ole Miss Sigma Phi Epsilon chapter had zero members of colour?
    I am not defending them--I am taking issue at posts that are stupid or silly



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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    ****ty prank that blew up in their faces.

    I have no clue if the "pranksters" were racist or not.

    If they were racists acting out a racist fantasy, they should be expelled.

    If they were not racists, but just too ignorant to know that a noose on the statue of the first black student in a state that historically has had huge problems with racism and associated violence - including hangings of people who were only guilty of the color of their skin was something that could be taken very badly.......well.....then they are too ignorant to attend college at this time.

    Either way, whether they are racists or just garden variety ignorant jerks - they probably do not need to be at that institution until they get a grip.

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