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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Where did a "leftist" member of this forum argue that this case wasn't a racist action or that it was "just a joke"?
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And I do think suspending the fraternity's charter was a bridge too far.
    Maybe. I would say it depends if it was done with the fraternity's imprimatur or not. If it was some kind of "official" fraternity prank, then I'd think it appropriate. If it was 3 members going rogue, then I think it's too far.

    That's a piece of information I don't have.


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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Maybe. I would say it depends if it was done with the fraternity's imprimatur or not. If it was some kind of "official" fraternity prank, then I'd think it appropriate. If it was 3 members going rogue, then I think it's too far.

    That's a piece of information I don't have.
    Yeah, we do, the fraternity came out with a statement right away.

    From the OP:
    "It is embarrassing that these men had previously identified with our fraternity," Brian Warren Jr., the organization’s chief executive, said in a statement late Friday.

    "SigEp has championed racial equality and issues on diversity since 1959, when it became the first national fraternity to invite members of all races, creeds and religions to join its membership," Warren said. "For this to occur in 2014 is an insult to the legacy of James Meredith, the University of Mississippi community and the SigEp alumni who fought for racial equality in the late 1950s."



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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Where did a "leftist" member of this forum argue that this case wasn't a racist action or that it was "just a joke"?
    Start reading here:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1062959386
    So now, "Moderate" is the same as "Leftist" in your mind?
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    So now, "Moderate" is the same as "Leftist" in your mind?
    Do you always argue against what you made up?
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do you always argue against what you made up?
    So, I "made up" your post?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Just a note....In reading this thread, I find it simply amazing that in this thread where the perpetrators are are described as from a fraternity that touts its "diversity, and support of equal rights", so immediately the conversation starting out was one of how the leftist members didn't think it was meant to be a "racist action" or that it was just "a joke in bad taste".....Where as the same OP starter in another thread takes a mention of militia in a plot, and immediately the perps are "RIGHT WING!!!!!"
    How easily some are just plain duped.
    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Where did a "leftist" member of this forum argue that this case wasn't a racist action or that it was "just a joke"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    So now, "Moderate" is the same as "Leftist" in your mind?
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do you always argue against what you made up?
    post #3 Aunt Spiker, Lean: Moderate
    The act itself isn't 'racist' to me - could be a ****ty joke.
    post #4 Maggie, Lean: Moderate
    Oh for God's sake. A kid prank. Yeah, it's a racist prank.
    Even better, "Very Conservative" is to be seen as the same as "Leftist"?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Exactly. They were trolling and it blew up in their faces.

    Good on the fraternity for saving face, I guess. However, I don't think that racism was the primary motivation.
    clownboy is a "Leftist"?
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    Oh BS. Climb down off the horse. It's actually part of the culture of some campuses to mess with the statuary in ever more creative ways. My own freshman class placed a 5 foot paper mache penis on the statue of the university's founder.

    There isn't a culture on earth that has no racism. The key is in how it's dealt with. What more do you require than what has happenned to address the incident? You looking for the death penalty or something?

    Three students' careers and lives have been permanently impacted because they carried out what could very well have been a stupid college prank. A fraternity that has openned itself up to all races has lost it's charter. Massive over reaction fueled by the guilty minds of a bunch of white liberals.
    Like I wrote earlier, "Where did a "leftist" member of this forum argue that this case wasn't a racist action or that it was "just a joke"?"
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    So, I "made up" your post?






    post #3 Aunt Spiker, Lean: Moderate
    post #4 Maggie, Lean: Moderate

    Even better, "Very Conservative" is to be seen as the same as "Leftist"?


    clownboy is a "Leftist"?


    Like I wrote earlier, "Where did a "leftist" member of this forum argue that this case wasn't a racist action or that it was "just a joke"?"
    No, I agree with postings you cherrypicked...I was speaking of how the known leftists responded early in the thread when they realized that they couldn't blame this on some right wing frat...but you know that, you're just being dishonest.
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I was speaking of how the known leftists responded early in the thread when they realized that they couldn't blame this on some right wing frat
    And you said leftists responded by calling this a prank.

    Problem is, no leftist called it a prank. Only the moderates and the conservatives.
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

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