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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Sorry YOU lose - the photo is from the SigEp chapter at University of SOUTHERN Mississippi - NOT from the University of Mississippi
    Well, it was a good try to validate your claim. Why don't you try now?

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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, intent counts

    SO the question is, did he accidently slip while carrying a noose and he lost his grip on it and it just happened to, accidently, fall around the statue's neck where he couldn't reach it to remove it?

    Or maybe he meant to put a tie around the statue but when he reached into his closet he accidently pulled out a noose?

    Or maybe, just maybe, he knew the symbolic meaning behind the noose and the effect of hanging it around that particular statue's neck?

    What do you think?
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    I guess it was, "Was it a racist joke? Oh hell yes." that threw me off.
    I'm not sure I'd expel the guys. There might be some kind of penance that could be dreamed up for them.
    Would you agree that calling in the feds to consider hate crime legislation with a minimum requirement of five years in a federal prison is a bit over the top for an act of utter stupidity that otherwise broke no laws?

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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The act itself isn't 'racist' to me - could be a ****ty joke. Our country has certainly made it permissible to make race-related jokes. Many comedians thrive on this (Key and Peele, Tosh.0 - etc).

    What would make it racist is the intent, the overall behavior or attitude of these individuals. If they were in fact doing it for racially charged, hate fueled reasons VS they thought it would just be dumb and funny.
    There is nothing remotely funny about draping a noose around the statute of a man who single-handedly ended segregation at the University of Mississippi and who had more courage in one fingernail that these inbred cretins could ever imagine. They should be kicked out of the University, never mind the fraternity.
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Well, it was a good try to validate your claim. Why don't you try now?
    NO, it was a poor attempt on your part to invalidate my claim. I will wait for some one to show my statement was wrong.
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That's the one:



    link

    400 vs three - I wonder why the harsh reaction this time around?
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Would you agree that calling in the feds to consider hate crime legislation with a minimum requirement of five years in a federal prison is a bit over the top for an act of utter stupidity that otherwise broke no laws?
    Why is it an act of stupidity, and not an act of racism?
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Would you agree that calling in the feds to consider hate crime legislation with a minimum requirement of five years in a federal prison is a bit over the top for an act of utter stupidity that otherwise broke no laws?
    Yes. It should be dealt with in-house. Some variety of community service, maybe, but not expulsion.
    That would teach them the wrong lesson.
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    A white guy hanging a noose around the neck of James Meredith doesn't look like racism to you?
    Nothing looks like racism to the Far Right. Nothing. Real lynchings wouldn't look like racism to these guys.
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    Re: Fraternity expels 3 linked to statue noose, suspends Ole Miss chapter

    I wanted to bring this back up from Lowdown's topic on the subject

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Such gross and stupid incidents of racial incitement often turn out to be false flag operations.
    I guess this was one of those "rare" occasions it wasn't a false flag operation

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