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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

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    I hope not, because I have it my library, too. That doesn't address my point, however.
    Aren't individuals responsible for creating their own moral values?
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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

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    Should the Russians have been able to make that judgement?
    That's right. Socialism is usually thrust upon a people, whether they like it or not. None of the people in the former USSR had a choice on whether they wanted socialism. And of course each time a socialist policy is enacted, the less freedom an individual has.

    Yet some left wingers have called communism a 'life style' choice.

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Aren't individuals responsible for creating their own moral values?
    Socialists are more about the masses than the individual. It is group think.

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Aren't individuals responsible for creating their own moral values?
    Schools are teaching kids HOW to think, not WHAT to think.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Who said it should be? We have said they should be taught a true and accurate history of socialism. Apparently, you think, that letting them know the truth about socialism is assumed to be a bias against it.
    If the only sources of information about socialism you provide for students are negative portrayals, the knowledge the student will be inherently biased.

    If a person is studing the teachings of Karl marx, should students be allowed to understand what time period Marx lived in, what were the issues affecting people in Marx's time, and ask questions to provide context?
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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Can a society be a supporter of both liberty and equality?
    A lot is going to depend on the definition of terms. Generally though these two principles are incompatible, for when liberty is exercised we will see that the free choices that people make in society will result in unequal outcomes. The best way to insure equality is to limit liberty and impose equality.

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    If the only sources of information about socialism you provide for students are negative portrayals, the knowledge the student will be inherently biased.
    Let me try that out. "If the only sources of information about National Socialism you provide for students are negative portrayals, the knowledge the student will be inherently biased."

    Is it any wonder that young people today think that Nazism is a worse ideology than Communism?

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    My history teacher has mien kampf in his library, does that fact make him a nazi?
    The teacher can always use Mein Kamph as an example of how things can go horribly wrong when personal liberty is lost..

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Let me try that out. "If the only sources of information about National Socialism you provide for students are negative portrayals, the knowledge the student will be inherently biased."
    Socialism is a very broad subject.

    democratic socialism, social democracy, and reformism are all related to socialism.
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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The teacher can always use Mein Kamph as an example of how things can go horribly wrong when personal liberty is lost..
    or the insane ravings of a madman.
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