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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Interesting that a liberal, aka, socialist reads that as "children should be taught THAT socailism is evil" and not as what was actually written.
    shouldn't people be allowed to make their own judgement on whether or not socialism is "evil"?
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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    shouldn't people be allowed to make their own judgement on whether or not socialism is "evil"?
    In many cases Socialism has been extremely 'evil' and, over the longer term, unsustainable. Those people who are using their own judgement when arguing for socialist policies tend to not understand history, basic economics or human behavior. That's why a proper education in these areas is so important.

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

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    In many cases Socialism has been extremely 'evil' and, over the longer term, unsustainable. Those people who are using their own judgement when arguing for socialist policies tend to not understand history, basic economics or human behavior. That's why a proper education in these areas are so important.
    that would require students being able to access the readings of socialist thinkers and how socialism developed.
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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    that would require students being able to access the readings of socialist thinkers and how socialism developed.
    Yes, and how wrong they were.

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In many cases Socialism has been extremely 'evil' and, over the longer term, unsustainable. Those people who are using their own judgement when arguing for socialist policies tend to not understand history, basic economics or human behavior. That's why a proper education in these areas is so important.
    I think he may still be confused by the difference "about" and "that".
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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    shouldn't people be allowed to make their own judgement on whether or not socialism is "evil"?
    As a personal philosophy, sure. As a system of government no.

    Think of it like a strawberry-crap yoghurt sundae. I like strawberry yoghurt. You, the socialist, want to compromise by introducing some dog crap into the sundae. There is no compromise possible because to compromise means to rape the liberty of the objector.

    You and your fellow socialists can join together and do all of your socialisty things together voluntarily. No problem. The problem arises when you start stealing my income, my assets, and my freedom in order to achieve your socialisty goals. There are no compromises possible with respect to other people's liberty. You can eat dog crap yoghurt until you bust, but don't shove that onto other people, unwilling people, people who simply want to eat their strawberry yoghurt.

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, and how wrong they were.
    Should students be allowed to draw their own conclusions? should they be allowed to make a argument that the socialist thinkers may have had valid points?
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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Should students be allowed to draw their own conclusions? should they be allowed to make a argument that the socialist thinkers may have had valid points?
    Do I get to control your sex life? What makes you think that you, a socialist, should have any control over any aspect of my life?

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    shouldn't people be allowed to make their own judgement on whether or not socialism is "evil"?
    Should the Russians have been able to make that judgement?
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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Should students be allowed to draw their own conclusions? should they be allowed to make a argument that the socialist thinkers may have had valid points?
    Students are there to learn, not be brainwashed. The more students learn about socialism and its history, if they are also taught the alternatives, the more they will reject it.

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