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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    That's the message that you took from my post? You really do have a stupendous talent for reading between the lines material that simply isn't there and that other people don't see.

    Terrorists want to be effective. Don't they? They usually have a goal in mind. Don't they?




    Was Brevik effective or not?




    Note, the question I ask you doesn't have any lines above or below it, it's a simple 5 word question so it's impossible to read between the lines. I'm not asking you whether what Brevik did was moral, whether it should be legal, whether he should have done some things differently, or anything else you might imagine that I'm asking you. Brevik murdered the most promising stars of the rising socialist generation in Norway. Did he damage that movement or not? Remember, he had some goal in mind when he committed his act of terror.
    Does it matter if it was effective? Murder is murder whether or not it's "effective."


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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Does it matter if it was effective? Murder is murder whether or not it's "effective."
    Most murderers hope to cause an effect of one sort or another. It's often called a "motive".

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Most murderers hope to cause an effect of one sort or another. It's often called a "motive".
    Please take the time to read the post I was replying to.

    He wanted to know if I thought Brevik was "effective" in his aims. I don't care, what he did was wrong, whatever his motive was.


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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    This thread is a disaster.
    The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.
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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Please take the time to read the post I was replying to.

    He wanted to know if I thought Brevik was "effective" in his aims. I don't care, what he did was wrong, whatever his motive was.
    Yes, murdering children is wrong. Good observation.

    Was Brevik effective? Or, in other words, was he successful in carrying out his motive.

    I don't think he was because, as even you noted, murdering children is wrong. Although some think that it's okay if they are young enough.

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, murdering children is wrong. Good observation.

    Was Brevik effective? Or, in other words, was he successful in carrying out his motive.

    I don't think he was because, as even you noted, murdering children is wrong. Although some think that it's okay if they are young enough.
    Please, you're going to equate it to abortion? Are you going for some kind of "dishonest arguments in one thread" record?


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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who is we? It seems to me that calling them 'militia groups' adds a lot of unwarranted credibility to these yahoos and makes them sound more dangerous than they are.
    Um....the "we" would be me, the FBI, the suspects.....and anyone else familiar with the militia movement in the US since the 1990's.

    I won't force you to be a part of this group since you seem intent on excluding yourself.




    Yes, these members were arrested but you said "If you are new to the concept of RW militia groups, particularly those in the South, there are lots of resources available to bring you up to date". My question was obviously not directed to those who were already arrested, as a re-read will demonstrate, but as to why these other 'militia groups in the south' haven't been arrested.
    I'm sorry, it is not my responsibility to teach you when a militia group or member is or is not committing a crime.

    Again, find this out for yourself.
    Also, what makes them 'right wing". Are they for a balanced budget amendment?
    Why is your argument so incredibly ignorant about a topic it has chosen to engage in?
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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, anything shocking in the news must surely be coming from the right....
    Nobody claimed that.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Please, you're going to equate it to abortion? Are you going for some kind of "dishonest arguments in one thread" record?
    I'm agreeing with you that it's wrong to murder children.

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    Re: FBI: Men tried to buy bombs for government attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um....the "we" would be me, the FBI, the suspects.....and anyone else familiar with the militia movement in the US since the 1990's.

    I won't force you to be a part of this group since you seem intent on excluding yourself.
    You're quite right that I'm not part of any militia, peaceful or otherwise. And most of them do appear to be peaceful or, I'm assuming, mre of them would have been arrested.
    Why is your argument so incredibly ignorant about a topic it has chosen to engage in?
    If the answer to the question eludes you, just say so.

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