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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I read before that even with the wars, America's largest military role was aid around the world....Are you advocating doing away with that as well?
    This topic is specifically about the Army, where these cuts would not have much of an impact on our ability to provide aid which is mostly done by the Navy and Marine Corps in terms of total volume.

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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So, let me ask you. Was Eisenhower a prophet?
    He was a very wise man, but I find it highly entertaining that most of the people who like to quote Eisenhower's "military industrial complex" statement are the least likely to agree with most of the other stuff he said in that speech. Half would bemoan the growing theocracy due to the spirituality of the speech, others would disagree with him on the future of scientific endeavor, which he put on par with the military industrial complex.

    All in all I think he was more spot on about the compromising of science for the easy money of government funding.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Interesting the cuts will bring us down to levels we had 'before' WWII. With a poontang like Obama in charge with his track record, the rest of the world will likely start displaying their aggressiveness.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So, let me ask you. Was Eisenhower a prophet?
    I think so. Eisenhower had been there and had done that. He learned from personal experience. Then as a president he had to fight the military industrial complex. IKE had the stature to do so. The people trusted him.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Interesting the cuts will bring us down to levels we had 'before' WWII. With a poontang like Obama in charge with his track record, the rest of the world will likely start displaying their aggressiveness.
    So some bodies got to be aggressive so it might as well be us, I suppose. Have a defensive army that no fool on earth would ever want to **** with and you'll be safe.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think so. Eisenhower had been there and had done that. He learned from personal experience. Then as a president he had to fight the military industrial complex. IKE had the stature to do so. The people trusted him.
    Yep, but subsequent presidents failed to and we're where we are today because of it. Of course Eisenhower would tell us today, "I warned you of this".
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    He was a very wise man, but I find it highly entertaining that most of the people who like to quote Eisenhower's "military industrial complex" statement are the least likely to agree with most of the other stuff he said in that speech. Half would bemoan the growing theocracy due to the spirituality of the speech, others would disagree with him on the future of scientific endeavor, which he put on par with the military industrial complex.

    All in all I think he was more spot on about the compromising of science for the easy money of government funding.
    That's ridiculous, must you agree with everything a person says to agree with anything a person says. We wouldn't like the religious ****!
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So some bodies got to be aggressive so it might as well be us, I suppose. Have a defensive army that no fool on earth would ever want to **** with and you'll be safe.
    Obama not only let Putin invade Georgia, he praised him for it.

    I wouldn't feel to 'safe' if I were you.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yep, but subsequent presidents failed to and we're where we are today because of it. Of course Eisenhower would tell us today, "I warned you of this".
    Exactly, at least for us old farts who remember him as president. All these nice toys, equipment if you will and civilian contractors hired to support the troops, these need to be cut. You need troops to operate and use all these nice toys and equipment. We really have warehouses full of stuff bought by the military because congress put it in their budget that will never be used and wasn't asked for.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So some bodies got to be aggressive so it might as well be us, I suppose. Have a defensive army that no fool on earth would ever want to **** with and you'll be safe.
    No army ever won a war acting defensively. You win a war by attacking.
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