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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah? Clinton isn't in office, but he did nothing to stop Rwanda....(You brought it up) As far as why I expect Obama to do something, how about the fact that he campaigned on it in 2007, only to ignore it once he got in....But that's ok with you right? Talk about bull****, and not owning ones own mistakes...You have a big double standard Pete. Typical.
    He didn't bring it up I did. Rwanda under Clinton. Sudan under Bush. Yet you expect Obama to take the criticism for not doing anything in Sudan but give Bush a complete pass. You're such an obvious partisan hack.

    Our military isn't about "carrying a big stick". You besmirch Teddy's name when you try to invoke that phrase. Our military is about protecting corporate interests first and protecting our public interests second.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Really? Tell me what we did about the Rwanda genocide or the Slaughter in Sudan. Oh that's not a big stick, it's a masturbatory aid...
    That's an issue of political will with the civilian leadership, not about the availability or ability of the US military.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    That's an issue of political will with the civilian leadership, not about the availability or ability of the US military.
    The point is, it doesn't matter how big the stick is: there are a multitude of reasons why we don't get involved in causes that seem worthwhile, and yet we also frequently find ourselves using the military in ways that are not about protecting the interests of American civilians or even American interests.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    While I'm against decreasing the standing size of the Army I'm not necessarily against reducing or redirecting expenditure with regards to the Army and the Marine Corps. I think we've developed a very flawed funding narrative with regards to potential future threats by focusing, by necessity, on low intensity warfare and the need for capable occupation forces. As a result the Navy has suffered with regards to funding for maintenance, full crew compliments, and new non-carrier procurement (yes the naval design and procurement process is really f-ed up right now and needs dramatic improvement) and we've lost really critical Air Force programs like the F-22. I'd like to see a little less money directed towards the Army and Marines and more directed towards the Navy, the Air Force (less bases, more BRAC, more planes), and R&D.

    Reducing troop strength isn't the way to go though. Mothball equipment, cut production lines, terminate specific R&D projects but don't permanently reduce troop strength. Once you make that decision it is so difficult to muster the political will to raise troop levels again barring catastrophe and it severely hobbles our ability to respond to threats as they emerge by shrinking our manpower pool.

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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    He didn't bring it up I did. Rwanda under Clinton. Sudan under Bush. Yet you expect Obama to take the criticism for not doing anything in Sudan but give Bush a complete pass. You're such an obvious partisan hack.

    Our military isn't about "carrying a big stick". You besmirch Teddy's name when you try to invoke that phrase. Our military is about protecting corporate interests first and protecting our public interests second.
    So tell me when Obama said in the campaign "to fail to do anything about Sudan is a stain on our soul"... Then got into office, what has he done?

    But I'm the hack right?
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So tell me when Obama said in the campaign "to fail to do anything about Sudan is a stain on our soul"... Then got into office, what has he done?

    But I'm the hack right?
    Why are you giving Bush a free pass? Sudan started under Bush.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    He didn't bring it up I did. Rwanda under Clinton. Sudan under Bush. Yet you expect Obama to take the criticism for not doing anything in Sudan but give Bush a complete pass. You're such an obvious partisan hack.

    Our military isn't about "carrying a big stick". You besmirch Teddy's name when you try to invoke that phrase. Our military is about protecting corporate interests first and protecting our public interests second.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Obama not only let Putin invade Georgia, he praised him for it.

    I wouldn't feel to 'safe' if I were you.

    No wonder conversations disintegrate so quickly. Russia sent armoured forces into Georgia following an attack by Georgian forces on a Russian-speaking region of Georgia, an area whose population wanted to be part of Russia. Oh yeah, one other item of note. This all happened when some other guy was President, not Obama by name.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    No wonder conversations disintegrate so quickly. Russia sent armoured forces into Georgia following an attack by Georgian forces on a Russian-speaking region of Georgia, an area whose population wanted to be part of Russia. Oh yeah, one other item of note. This all happened when some other guy was President, not Obama by name.
    I know, I retracted this statement.

    Obama did however, conveniently overlook the Georgian episode before meeting with Medvedev at the G20 and in the START treaty discussions.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Why do you "need" to spend 3 times as much as China and Russia's total yearly expenditure anyway?
    Partially because we protect our allies that don't spend so much. Besides. How much do the people making military equipment in China make vs. our union labor in Boeing et al?
    Excellent idea, let's do away with unions and the minimum wage requirement so the US military can be used just like the Chinese military -- TO ****ING MAINTAIN ORDER AND CONTROL OVER A NEW AMERICAN PEASANTRY!! GREAT IDEA

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