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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hear, hear!!!! It must be so easy for PeteEU, or Monte sitting in Europe knowing that there are the full complement of US troops, and hardware at the ready to save them if needed, even as they spit in our faces.
    what people don't understand is that it is cheaper to deploy bases around area's than it is to have to ship them across the ocean to get where they need to go.
    what is worse is if you have to ship them there in an emergency the enemy can cut you off or attack you in transport and then you are really in trouble.

    as i say if hagel wants to cut our military then lets cut him and all the benefits he gets for not doing a bloody thing.

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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And where is Obama on the Sudan?
    Where was Bush on Sudan? It started under him after all. A bit of selective partisan outrage there eh?
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    The money ripped from the pockets of our service personnel will help cover the costs of giving free everything to illegal immigrants and extending unemployment benefits for 100 years to all our lazy bums.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    This isnt about sequester, nor is it about budget cuts. It is about right sizing the military based on actual need. No one want to see the military gutted or put in a situation where anyone's life is at risk but anyone that follows military affairs knows that prior to and during wars you have buildups in manpower and after the wars you have draw downs. It really isnt a question of it is is necessary...it is. It is a question of if it can be done efficiently without hurting mission readiness. That isnt quite so clear. Recent past history hasnt shown that to be the case.

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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Where was Bush on Sudan? It started under him after all. A bit of selective partisan outrage there eh?
    Weak Pete, Bush is no longer in the Oval office. This was supposed to be the era where Obama over saw the oceans recede, and the world come together for a coke....So, I'll ask again Where's Obama?

    From Sept. of last year:

    When President Obama addressed the United Nations General Assembly this week, the speech ran to more than 5,000 words, most of them focused on turmoil in the Middle East and North Africa. Yet the president never mentioned the continuing genocide conducted in several parts of Sudan by President Omar al-Bashir.

    There was a time when Mr. Obama expressed outrage over the mass murder and aerial bombardment of civilians in the Darfur region of western Sudan. In 2007, the then-presidential hopeful said the Western world's silence regarding the slaughter in Sudan would leave "a stain on our souls."

    Now President Obama has joined that silence. These days, to learn about what is transpiring in Sudan, one must turn to Radio Dabanga, broadcasting from the Netherlands. A recent report described the bombardment of a Darfur village called Abu Tega, which was "completely burned and the population fled in all directions."

    Mia Farrow and Daniel Jonah Goldhagen: Mass Slaughter and Obama's Mystifying Indifference - WSJ.com
    As with most things Obama, he talked a lot of **** trying to get in office, only to get in and do little or nothing...What a loser.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    This isnt about sequester, nor is it about budget cuts. It is about right sizing the military based on actual need. No one want to see the military gutted or put in a situation where anyone's life is at risk but anyone that follows military affairs knows that prior to and during wars you have buildups in manpower and after the wars you have draw downs. It really isnt a question of it is is necessary...it is. It is a question of if it can be done efficiently without hurting mission readiness. That isnt quite so clear. Recent past history hasnt shown that to be the case.
    I might believe that if Obama wasn't pushing pay raises for AFLCIO workers and was cutting fat out of other agencies also. He is doing nothing to push cuts elsewhere, but his appointee wants cuts to the military. Hmm, who votes for the DNC couldn't have anything to do with it, could it?
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I might believe that if Obama wasn't pushing pay raises for AFLCIO workers and was cutting fat out of other agencies also. He is doing nothing to push cuts elsewhere, but his appointee wants cuts to the military. Hmm, who votes for the DNC couldn't have anything to do with it, could it?
    Very separate issues. From a real world perspective, there should be cuts in the military. No doubt, politics comes into play...but that doesnt change reality.

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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Weak Pete, Bush is no longer in the Oval office. This was supposed to be the era where Obama over saw the oceans recede, and the world come together for a coke....So, I'll ask again Where's Obama?

    From Sept. of last year:



    As with most things Obama, he talked a lot of **** trying to get in office, only to get in and do little or nothing...What a loser.
    Weak? Clinton aint in office either... and yet he was mentioned.

    Fact is Sudan started under Bush, he did nothing.. and now you some how expect Obama to do something? Why was there no expectation that Bush did anything? Why no blaming him at least as much as Obama? Oh yea, typical right wing bull**** of not owning up to your own mistakes.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Weak? Clinton aint in office either... and yet he was mentioned.

    Fact is Sudan started under Bush, he did nothing.. and now you some how expect Obama to do something? Why was there no expectation that Bush did anything? Why no blaming him at least as much as Obama? Oh yea, typical right wing bull**** of not owning up to your own mistakes.
    Yeah? Clinton isn't in office, but he did nothing to stop Rwanda....(You brought it up) As far as why I expect Obama to do something, how about the fact that he campaigned on it in 2007, only to ignore it once he got in....But that's ok with you right? Talk about bull****, and not owning ones own mistakes...You have a big double standard Pete. Typical.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Here's an interesting little aside to the debate about military spending and necessary vs unnecessary hardware:

    Article from 2012, before the sequester:

    (CNSNews.com) - President Barack Obama increased inflation-adjusted Department of Defense spending by 10 percent--even while ending the war in Iraq.

    That is more than the automatic cut in defense spending that will take place in January if Obama and Congress do not agree to a new spending-and-debt-limit deal.

    In fiscal 2008, the year before Obama took office, real Defense Department spending was $526.9 billion in constant 2005 dollars, according to official figures published by the Office of Management and Budget. Four years later, in fiscal 2012, which ended on Sept. 30, real Defense Department spending was $582.5 billion in constant 2005 dollars.

    The $55.6 billion jump in real Defense Department spending from 2008 to 2012 was a 10.5 percent increase.

    - See more at: Obama Increased Real Defense Spending by More Than 10 Percent | CNS News
    It seems to me that the issue with military spending, as with any government program, is not funding but efficiency. A lot of federal money tends to get wasted regardless of who is at the helm.
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