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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I support cuts across the board. If I am to believe that more can be done with less in regard to welfare, how am I to feel otherwise in regard to the military?
    A rare instance where we agree.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And there will always be a US with a big stick on the world stage, count on it.
    Really? Tell me what we did about the Rwanda genocide or the Slaughter in Sudan. Oh that's not a big stick, it's a masturbatory aid...
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    US military to unveil plan to cut personnel costs | Fox News

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    Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is set Monday to recommend a limit on military pay raises, higher fees for health-care benefits and less generous housing allowances to prune billions of dollars in benefits from the defense budget, setting up an election-year confrontation with veterans groups and lawmakers.

    Faced with steadily increasing military personnel costs that threaten to overwhelm an ever-tighter budget, Mr. Hagel is also expected to include a one-year freeze on raises for top military brass—a gesture meant to show that the best-compensated leaders also will make sacrifices.

    Pentagon officials describe the package of cuts, which will be part of the military's coming budget, as a modest and realistic attempt to save billions of dollars needed to protect other critical portions of U.S. defense spending.

    The majority of service members are E-4 or Below (Distribution of Enlisted Ranks)

    Here is the military enlisted pay charts for 2014 2014 Military Pay Chart

    The military received a 1% increase for 2014 with food prices alone projected to go up 2.5% to 3.5% this year. These people risk their lives everyday for all of us and yet live at or near the poverty level and now some want to cut their pay and increase their costs even more.

    If cutting this to the military is what is necessary to maintain the welfare state, then we need to reconsider or priorities, or the veterans/military should decide not to defend such a state.
    Well how about stopping all the unnecessary hardware that the Pentagon is forced to buy because of political reasons? That could save a bundle! Do you really need that many Abraham's tanks built when you have thousands standing in big desert parking lots mothballed?

    Blaming the wealth-fare state for these cuts is simplistic and ignorant. The military is 1/3 of the total budget once you add stuff up... it is a major post and like everything else, needs to be cut.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Well how about stopping all the unnecessary hardware that the Pentagon is forced to buy because of political reasons? That could save a bundle! Do you really need that many Abraham's tanks built when you have thousands standing in big desert parking lots mothballed?

    Blaming the wealth-fare state for these cuts is simplistic and ignorant. The military is 1/3 of the total budget once you add stuff up... it is a major post and like everything else, needs to be cut.
    Nothing more ridiculous than foreigners telling us how to spend our money.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Nothing more ridiculous than foreigners telling us how to spend our money.
    Nothing more ridiculous than arrogance and pride getting in the way of common sense.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Nothing more ridiculous than arrogance and pride getting in the way of common sense.
    You biased hate for us is well known. Save us your feigned concern.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I didn't know we started WWII...
    Neither did I, it was just a general idea. Not specific to any war.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Nothing more ridiculous than arrogance and pride getting in the way of common sense.
    you know what i agree the US should go back to a pre-WW2 mentality. screw everyone else and you can fend for yourselves.

    i have been an advocate of pulling out of the UN for a while and not acknowledging it as any sort of government body with any type of power.
    that would save us billions of dollars a year in foreign aid and UN dues.

    when something happens in the world you guys can take care of it on your own. if you want our help then you can pay the bill for our resources.
    i see no reason as to why US taxpayers are on the hook to defend other nations. you either can take care of yourself or not. if you need help from someone else
    sure no problem here is the bill for us coming in and saving you.

    as people say we are not the police of the world and if you want us to be then time to start paying for it.

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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Really? Tell me what we did about the Rwanda genocide or the Slaughter in Sudan. Oh that's not a big stick, it's a masturbatory aid...
    Yes, where was Clinton on Rwanda? And where is Obama on the Sudan? Funny how liberals love to tout how they are for human rights, and people, but when the chips are down, they fall silent, and let it happen....Where is Obama on Syria? Assad lied to his face and made him look like a fool on the world stage, yet Obama does nothing....

    Don't tell me about "masturbatory" when on foreign policy demo's are locked in the upstairs bathroom with a tube of super glide, and a roll of paper towel.
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    Re: Pentegon set to release new cuts to Active Duty

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you know what i agree the US should go back to a pre-WW2 mentality. screw everyone else and you can fend for yourselves.

    i have been an advocate of pulling out of the UN for a while and not acknowledging it as any sort of government body with any type of power.
    that would save us billions of dollars a year in foreign aid and UN dues.

    when something happens in the world you guys can take care of it on your own. if you want our help then you can pay the bill for our resources.
    i see no reason as to why US taxpayers are on the hook to defend other nations. you either can take care of yourself or not. if you need help from someone else
    sure no problem here is the bill for us coming in and saving you.

    as people say we are not the police of the world and if you want us to be then time to start paying for it.

    Hear, hear!!!! It must be so easy for PeteEU, or Monte sitting in Europe knowing that there are the full complement of US troops, and hardware at the ready to save them if needed, even as they spit in our faces.
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