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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You haven't told us why someone would prefer to work for pennies when they can get paid 1000x more for the same job by simply changing employers.
    Maybe they have morals or value their families lives. Or they want the violence to end. There are many reasons. Then you are suggesting the arrest of Guzman was staged for his own benefit, in doing so you are saying the Sinaloan cartel has the majority control of the federal Mexican government, or no?
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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Maybe they have morals or value their families lives.
    If they have morals and family values, they would know they'd have to align w/a cartel leader for protection or else get killed (or tortured) by another cop or operative who does work for one.

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Please stop avoiding the question. You have made some assertions here and I would like to know, as well as many other posters, where you get your information.

    You seem pretty sure about what you think you know, but at least two of us here that live in Mexico know that what you say is completely wrong.

    Please enlighten us as to where you are getting your inside information.
    Most Mexicans, i. e. those who have grown up in Mexico, acknowledge that the cartels run the govt. to a large degree and that the whole El Chapo arrest affair was staged.

    The only people who don't know this are naive Americans who have no street smarts and buy whatever their govt. tells them (i. e. "Iraq has WMDs", "the NSA doesn't spy", "we don't torture", . . .)

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Most Mexicans, i. e. those who have grown up in Mexico, acknowledge that the cartels run the govt. to a large degree and that the whole El Chapo arrest affair was staged.

    The only people who don't know this are naive Americans who have no street smarts and buy whatever their govt. tells them (i. e. "Iraq has WMDs", "the NSA doesn't spy", "we don't torture", . . .)
    Are you Mexican or have you spent a significant amount of time in Mexico?

    I am not denying cartels pay off the government, or even work with them but what else besides that knowledge do you have that his arrest was staged and to who's advantage and why? Because if it is to one cartels advantage they have majority control and that effects many.
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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Most Mexicans, i. e. those who have grown up in Mexico, acknowledge that the cartels run the govt. to a large degree and that the whole El Chapo arrest affair was staged.

    The only people who don't know this are naive Americans who have no street smarts and buy whatever their govt. tells them (i. e. "Iraq has WMDs", "the NSA doesn't spy", "we don't torture", . . .)
    You have that backwards. Most Mexicans assume what is going on because they don't know anything for sure. There is no press reporting anything and unless they know people personally, they don't know.

    As for Americans, I don't give a crap what they think they know, they are not here on the streets.

    Please answer me this. If the cartel has control of the government, why are the money laundering laws so strict?

    If the cartel has control of the government why do banks not accept dollars anymore?

    If the cartel has control of the government why did the government make it almost illegal for a business to accept dollars as payment?

    If the cartel has control of the government why do the police have an operation every night to stop vehicles usually connected with the cartel to see who and what they can find and get them off the street?

    If the cartel has control of the government why are there shoot outs with officers dying every week?

    If the cartel has control of the government why are there trucks full of army and marines driving on the streets looking for the cartel members?

    If what you say is true, none of this would be happening because it is a waste of time and resources.

    Who do you know close to the cartels? I don't need names, just their positions.

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Most Mexicans, i. e. those who have grown up in Mexico, acknowledge that the cartels run the govt. to a large degree and that the whole El Chapo arrest affair was staged.

    The only people who don't know this are naive Americans who have no street smarts and buy whatever their govt. tells them (i. e. "Iraq has WMDs", "the NSA doesn't spy", "we don't torture", . . .)
    Then, by all means, post a few credible links showing that the cartels are running a significant part of the government of Mexico.
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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Then, by all means, post a few credible links showing that the cartels are running a significant part of the government of Mexico.
    I don't need links, because there won't be any, but I would like to know who his insider is. I have mine, and I am sure he has his.

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Jon Stewart Explains the Arrest of Drug Kingpin El Chapo As Only He Can


    And where does Guzman rank on Forbes' list? Right under Speaker of the House John Boehner, and just above Jill Abramson, executive editor of The New York Times. Stewart gets right to the absurdity of this ranking, imagining the three of them at a Forbes banquet together:

    "Well, pleased to meet you, I'm the head of one of the notorious, corrupt, and vile institutions in all of North America." ... "Oh, well, it's nice to meet you too, I'm El Chapo."


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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    I saw that one. Great comedy!

    (or was it truth??)
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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Explain why.
    There is nothing to gain from it and we're living in reality, not a ****ty HBO movie.
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