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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Sounds like you're in Mexico.

    I'm wondering the same thing, but from a safer distance.
    Yes I am in Mexico 2 hours from where Chap lived. He has kept it pretty calm around here and I hope it stays that way.

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

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    Sinaloa Cartel chief ‘El Chapo’ captured alive, says U.S. official | Toronto Star





    Good news and surprising considering it seemed like he had most of the Mexican government in his pocket for awhile.
    He controls 1/2 the Mexican govt., as well as a sizable chunk of the US govt. Therefore, he can't be jailed.

    Either the arrest is a farce that he perpetuated to create the illusion that he was caught (not difficult to do, since he also has control of much of the Mexican media) so as to keep smaller rival cartels away, OR

    it's a minor miscalculation on his part and he will negotiate for his release in a week.

    In any case, because of the vast control that drug lords wield over govts. and the media, stories about any of these individuals' arrest can never be trusted.

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I would have preferred depriving the man of his income by legalizing drugs. As a second best this is okay though.
    The reason cocaine, etc. is illegal in the US is because of men like Chapo lobbying US pols to keep it that way

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    He controls 1/2 the Mexican govt., as well as a sizable chunk of the US govt. Therefore, he can't be jailed.

    Either the arrest is a farce that he perpetuated to create the illusion that he was caught (not difficult to do, since he also has control of much of the Mexican media) so as to keep smaller rival cartels away, OR

    it's a minor miscalculation on his part and he will negotiate for his release in a week.

    In any case, because of the vast control that drug lords wield over govts. and the media, stories about any of these individuals' arrest can never be trusted.
    Where are you getting this completely wrong information?

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Where are you getting this completely wrong information?
    Where are you getting your information? ? From the same media stations in Mexico controlled by Guzman himself?

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    I said I don't know what happened and the Mexican media (largely controlled by the cartels themselves) can't be trusted. How is that wrong?
    You said

    "He controls 1/2 the Mexican govt., as well as a sizable chunk of the US govt. Therefore, he can't be jailed.

    Either the arrest is a farce that he perpetuated to create the illusion that he was caught (not difficult to do, since he also has control of much of the Mexican media) so as to keep smaller rival cartels away, OR

    it's a minor miscalculation on his part and he will negotiate for his release in a week."

    That didfn't sound like you said you didn't know, it sounded pretty positive. Where do you get your information that Chapo owns any government anywhere?

    Look for the pictures of him after he was beat and tell me they are going tolet him go.

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You said

    "He controls 1/2 the Mexican govt., as well as a sizable chunk of the US govt. Therefore, he can't be jailed.

    Either the arrest is a farce that he perpetuated to create the illusion that he was caught (not difficult to do, since he also has control of much of the Mexican media) so as to keep smaller rival cartels away, OR

    it's a minor miscalculation on his part and he will negotiate for his release in a week."

    That didfn't sound like you said you didn't know, it sounded pretty positive. Where do you get your information that Chapo owns any government anywhere?

    Look for the pictures of him after he was beat and tell me they are going tolet him go.
    How do you know it's him? Because the some Mexican police in Sinaloa said so. . ? Because the Mexican attorney general said he had DNA evidence

    It's well known that Chapo and other drug barons bribe officials, so thoroughly that they actually end up controlling 1/2 or more of the govt. of the country in which they have HQ. With that much control, arrest, or at least permanent jail time is impossible.

    The more likely scenario is that Chapo cut a deal w/Pena Nieto that he would keep the streets a bit quieter if Nieto set up a mock arrest of him, and lied to the media claiming he was actually the one arrested.

    Chapo probably just wanted to be left alone, and playing dead (or arrested) is a nice way to do that. His less noodle-minded rivals will likely buy the Mexican govt's line, just like you did

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    There's no police or members of the armed forces in Mexico anywhere that are independent of the cartels.

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I agree, at least on some drugs. It doesn't absolve Guzman though.
    Nope. Not in any way. And it is good he is gone.

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    Re: Mexico cartel chief 'El Chapo' captured alive, says US official

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    And such a non-existent connection between two points.
    That is exactly what they said about prohibition, while the thugs grew fat.

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