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Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

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It was a tongue in cheek comment regarding throwing around the word, "bigot". If pragmaticism were in practice the bakery in Colorado would never have been required to make a cake for the gay wedding.

I still laugh about that. Who in their right mind would FORCE someone to make them food?
 
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Pretty much everyone that uses it. If it is not a phobia the term has no purpose being used against anyone.
LOL....since few if anyone HERE is a clinical psychologist, the CONTEXT of the use precludes it is not being used as medical term.

But go ahead and play grammar cop if you like....

It is a great distraction.


PS:

Terms for prejudice

A number of terms with the suffix -phobia are used non-clinically. Such terms are primarily understood as negative attitudes towards certain categories of people or other things, used in an analogy with the medical usage of the term. Usually these kinds of "phobias" are described as fear, dislike, disapproval, prejudice, hatred, discrimination, or hostility towards the object of the "phobia". Often this attitude is based on prejudices and is a particular case of most xenophobia.

Below are some examples:

Biphobia - Negative attitudes and feelings towards bisexuality and bisexual people as a social group or as individuals.
Homophobia - Negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).
Islamophobia - Negative attitudes and feelings towards Islam or Muslims, particularly radical Muslims
Transphobia - Negative attitudes and feelings towards transsexualism and transsexual or transgender people, based on the expression of their internal gender identity.
Xenophobia – fear or dislike of strangers or the unknown, sometimes used to describe nationalistic political beliefs and movements.
 
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LOL....since few if anyone HERE is a clinical psychologist, the CONTEXT of the use precludes it is not being used as medical term.

But go ahead and play grammar cop if you like....

It is a great distraction.

If it is not a phobia the term is inaccurate as it is referring to something that doesn't exist. I see no reason to back down on that argument. :shrug:

It's like the term wage slavery that is describing something that is a contradiction of terms and is therefore inaccurate.
 
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If it is not a phobia the term is inaccurate as it is referring to something that doesn't exist. I see no reason to back down on that argument. :shrug:

It's like the term wage slavery that is describing something that is a contraction of terms and is therefore inaccurate.
Yawn....


Terms for prejudice

A number of terms with the suffix -phobia are used non-clinically. Such terms are primarily understood as negative attitudes towards certain categories of people or other things, used in an analogy with the medical usage of the term. Usually these kinds of "phobias" are described as fear, dislike, disapproval, prejudice, hatred, discrimination, or hostility towards the object of the "phobia". Often this attitude is based on prejudices and is a particular case of most xenophobia.

Below are some examples:

Biphobia - Negative attitudes and feelings towards bisexuality and bisexual people as a social group or as individuals.
Homophobia - Negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).
Islamophobia - Negative attitudes and feelings towards Islam or Muslims, particularly radical Muslims
Transphobia - Negative attitudes and feelings towards transsexualism and transsexual or transgender people, based on the expression of their internal gender identity.
Xenophobia – fear or dislike of strangers or the unknown, sometimes used to describe nationalistic political beliefs and movements.
 
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Keep on trying to debase the English language, again, the term is over 40 years old....the CONCEPT is ANCIENT.

Which shows you misunderstood the entire discussion.

Who was claiming it was?

Everyone here asserting it is an actual condition or using the term as if it were anything other than a popular catchphrase. That's been the subject of the discussion you chimed in on.
 
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Yawn....


Terms for prejudice

A number of terms with the suffix -phobia are used non-clinically. Such terms are primarily understood as negative attitudes towards certain categories of people or other things, used in an analogy with the medical usage of the term. Usually these kinds of "phobias" are described as fear, dislike, disapproval, prejudice, hatred, discrimination, or hostility towards the object of the "phobia". Often this attitude is based on prejudices and is a particular case of most xenophobia.

Below are some examples:

Biphobia - Negative attitudes and feelings towards bisexuality and bisexual people as a social group or as individuals.
Homophobia - Negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).
Islamophobia - Negative attitudes and feelings towards Islam or Muslims, particularly radical Muslims
Transphobia - Negative attitudes and feelings towards transsexualism and transsexual or transgender people, based on the expression of their internal gender identity.
Xenophobia – fear or dislike of strangers or the unknown, sometimes used to describe nationalistic political beliefs and movements.

Yup, and all of which are inaccurate. It's trying to say something is a phobia when it is in fact not in the attempt to give off the impression someone is a bad person. There is no reason to consider any of the above terms of any value.
 
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I still laugh about that. Who in their right mind would FORCE someone to make them food?

I know, right? It's like purposefully pissing off the drive through order taker when you're giving them your order.
 
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Which shows you misunderstood the entire discussion.
The discussion going on is between you and I, since you did not quote anyone in the original post I responded to. In this discussion, I have not had any misunderstanding.



Everyone here asserting it is an actual condition or using the term as if it were anything other than a popular catchphrase. That's been the subject of the discussion you chimed in on.
Everyone would include...me....and you.

PHAIL.
 
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Enough said.

That doesn't prove anything. Again, do you endorse abortion because you are pro-choice? You already said the answer is no, so why are you still arguing that I support discrimination because I don't support making it illegal?
 
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Yup, and all of which are inaccurate. It's trying to say something is a phobia when it is in fact not in the attempt to give off the impression someone is a bad person. There is no reason to consider any of the above terms of any value.
Still holding to the false premise that the term "phobia" is and only used in a clinical sense.

Yawn.
 
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Still holding to the false premise that the term "phobia" is and only used in a clinical sense.

Yawn.

That is not what I said at all.
 
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Still holding to the false premise that the term "phobia" is and only used in a clinical sense.

Yawn.

Not a false premise at all and you're just further demonstrating you haven't been following along in the thread. You can attach any word to any other to advance an agenda and that polyglot may even attain popular usage - doesn't elevate the term, no matter how scientific sounding, to any sort of accuracy or scientific worth.
 
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Not a false premise at all and you're just further demonstrating you haven't been following along in the thread. You can attach any word to any other to advance an agenda and that polyglot may even attain popular usage - doesn't elevate the term, no matter how scientific sounding, to any sort of accuracy or scientific worth.
You are making Latin speakers of the ages cry....
 
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So other than close some loopholes in the existing law, what exactly has changed in Arizona that warrants all the hand wringing?

What loopholes? Same sex marriage is not legal in Arizona. There are no discrimination protections for gays in Arizona. This law broadly opens up the potential for using religion to bash any group. If anything, this law CREATES loopholes.
 
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That doesn't prove anything.
You are free to deny anything.

Again, do you endorse abortion because you are pro-choice?
Wrong forum. Go to the abortion forum start a thread and I will be more than happy to answer your questions.
 
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You are free to deny anything.

Indeed, I am free to deny anything I please. I am also free to tell you the truth like I'm doing.

Wrong forum. Go to the abortion forum start a thread and I will be more than happy to answer your questions.

I'm not trying to get you to talk about abortion, just trying to get you to see the hypocrisy of your argument.
 
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Indeed, I am free to deny anything I please. I am also free to tell you the truth like I'm doing.
Again no, you are free to tell me anything you want, that however doe not mean it is the truth.

I'm not trying to get you to talk about abortion, just trying to get you to see the hypocrisy of your argument.
Ok, I'll bite. Describe the hypocrisy.
 
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What loopholes? Same sex marriage is not legal in Arizona. There are no discrimination protections for gays in Arizona. This law broadly opens up the potential for using religion to bash any group. If anything, this law CREATES loopholes.

Hmmm. Well according to what I've read, including a synopsis in the radical left Los Angeles Times, the new legislation was created in response to a decision in New Mexico, which potentially created a loophole in the application of existing law in Arizona. I've posted the link previously. Perhaps you can point out where the Los Angeles Times got it wrong.
 
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Again no, you are free to tell me anything you want, that however doe not mean it is the truth.

I noticed that you never told me where I endorsed discrimination when I asked for you to do so.

Ok, I'll bite. Describe the hypocrisy.

I already did. Do you need the post number?
 
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Hmmm. Well according to what I've read, including a synopsis in the radical left Los Angeles Times, the new legislation was created in response to a decision in New Mexico, which potentially created a loophole in the application of existing law in Arizona. I've posted the link previously. Perhaps you can point out where the Los Angeles Times got it wrong.

Hmmm. Let me get this straight. New Mexico, which has an anti discrimination law which names sexual orientation as a protected class, had an incident where a same sex couple was discriminated against and they brought that issue to court. And somehow that creates a loophole in Arizona which has no anti discrimination law for sexual orientation?
 
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I noticed that you never told me where I endorsed discrimination when I asked for you to do so.
The endorsement of a clearly bigoted law is a strong indication.

I already did. Do you need the post number?
You claimed it was but did not explain it, please do so.
 
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The endorsement of a clearly bigoted law is a strong indication.

Then being pro-choice is an indication of your endorsement of abortion. See how stupid you're being yet?

You claimed it was but did not explain it, please do so.

I did explain it. Look back in the thread.
 
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