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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well, let Christians get legally discriminated against, and this bill will go bye-bye if passed.

    Caveat emptor.
    Precisely. Poorly written and those who wrote it also agree it didn't end up matching their intent, That's why they've asked Brewer to veto.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Precisely. Poorly written and those who wrote it also agree it didn't end up matching their intent, That's why they've asked Brewer to veto.
    See? Everything works out. It always does.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    No, being pro-choice is being pro-choice since I have zero bias toward the choice made.
    On the other hand being pro a bigoted law is being pro-bigotry. It is quite simple actually if you try to make the decision in an honest fashion.
    No, being against anti-discrimination laws doesn't automatically mean someone supports discrimination. My argument is based on the rights of the people that operate the business, not the endorsement of discriminatory practices. Supporting something being legal, be that abortion or discrimination by private individuals, does not mean that you support the act itself, but that you are against making it illegal.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    His name is US Atty Gen Eric Holder. He's all for crossing state lines with such things. Gipper had it correct. Preemptive strike. Like a condom.
    ROFL. Seriously? What does same sex marriage even have to do with this bill? Even if there was SSM nationwide, there is no discrimination protections for gays in Arizona. You do not seem very informed on the legal matters on this issue. Just reactionary and partisan.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Typical right wing radio nonsense.
    Before 1970 the vast majority of liberals were nationalist. In fact the vast majority of all Americans be they Democrat or Republican were nationalists.

    Since 1970 the majority of liberals have switched sides and have become internationalist. Before 1970 the only Americans who weren't nationalist were the Marxist and internationalist socialist.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    See? Everything works out. It always does.
    Relevance? For somebody who is typically ardently logical and to the point with their politics, you are coming off emotional on this one.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Relevance? For somebody who is typically ardently logical and to the point with their politics, you are coming off emotional on this one.
    It's not emotional. I don't give a damn about discrimination. I'm saying that this all goes away when the tables get turned and some Muslim establishment says "Christian get out".

    That's as logical as it gets.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    ROFL. Seriously? What does same sex marriage even have to do with this bill? Even if there was SSM nationwide, there is no discrimination protections for gays in Arizona. You do not seem very informed on the legal matters on this issue. Just reactionary and partisan.
    Who was talking homosexual marriage? Holder has no problem with trampling state's rights as it is. And if you don't see why states would see the need for preemptive legislation then it is you who is woefully uninformed.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Enlighten me. I would honestly like to know how enforcing an anti discrimination law in New Mexico affects Arizona which does not have one.
    It was the impetus for the Arizona SB1062. It's all there if you bother to do a bit of research and reading. A photographer or wedding cake baker in New Mexico was asked by a same sex couple to provide photography or a cake, I forget which, for a wedding and was shocked and offended. The photographer or wedding cake baker refused because the bible apparently says that gay marriage is a sin. The bible also says gluttony is a sin but somehow there's no record of photographers or wedding cake bakers being offended and shocked by fat people.

    While there is no record of this being a problem at all in Arizona the Arizona legislature (no doubt with wads of walking around money and campaign contributions provided by lobbyists) decided they'd better jump on this like ugly on an ape and solve the problem that doesn't exist based on the one incident in New Mexico. The bill wasn't written by normal everyday good and worthy Christians, it was written by a nutcase Christian lobbying group with undisclosed financial sources.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Aren't there whole separate forums for rewriting the history of liberals, marxists, nationalist and internationalists.
    Stop and think about what your argument does to win people over to supporting the anti-gay bill.
    I'll repost so you can read a sensible Sen. Hatch discussing both sides of an emotional issue if you like.
    State's rights vs. Discrimination .
    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Before 1970 the vast majority of liberals were nationalist. In fact the vast majority of all Americans be they Democrat or Republican were nationalists.

    Since 1970 the majority of liberals have switched sides and have become internationalist. Before 1970 the only Americans who weren't nationalist were the Marxist and internationalist socialist.
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