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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So they can refuse to hire the disabled? Who is bigotted now.
    If you have to ask you wold never understand, but may I suggest that next time you need surgery seek out a blind surgeon.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Why do you need so many paragraphs?

    So you're saying that a sign outside a business that says "no blacks" is your idea of freedom? And for the record, I'm as liberal as they come, and I don't support the idea of Muslims working at a supermarket and refusing to handle pork if their job requires it. I believe that it's entirely legal for an employer to choose not to hire somebody who is unable to perform the duties of their job for any reason. I live in Minnesota and issues like that have come up and frankly I don't remember much support for the pro-Muslim-pork-avoiding advocates.

    I definitely think this bill is anti-gay. Can you name an instance in which a business owner has denied service to a sinner, for being a sinner? Are people being denied service because they are divorced, or because they cheat on their spouse, or because they have sex before marriage? Persecuting a child of God is a sin, so shouldn't half of the people who support this bill all be denied service from Christian business owners? Out of all the sins, it just so happens that only homosexuality has been the basis of discrimination in cases of business owners claiming the right to deny service based on religion?

    Do you know how many sins there are? And yet we only hear about homosexuality being a problem for business owners who are so concerned about upholding the principles of their religion? Don't be insulting. This is entirely about business owners looking for a thumbs up to discriminate against homosexuals.
    yep many things like this are DRENCHED in hypocrisy and bigotry

    there was a case where a church owned a pavilion on a separate piece of public access property at a boardwalk and rented it out all the time. They tried to deny a gay wedding there and tried to claim because of religious reasons which is complete crap lol

    a pavillion is not a church
    and they rent it out as a business

    and the best part is when it was checked into they rented it out to other nonreligious weddings, non religious events and jewish events too LMAO what big dummies they were lying and trying to claim religion as a reason, you shouldnt lie to a judge

    well the judge granted usage of the pavillion and then took thier tax exempt status away from them just for that piece of property

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    "Homophobia" is a recent term added by popular culture.
    You don't read the articles you cite, it was not "recent" nor was "added by pop culture".

    Although sexual attitudes tracing back to Ancient Greece (8th to 6th centuries BC to the end of antiquity (ca. 600 AD)) have been termed homophobia by scholars, the term itself is relatively new.[11] Coined by George Weinberg, a psychologist, in the 1960s,[12] the term homophobia is a blend[13][14][15] of (1) the word homosexual, itself a mix of neo-classical morphemes, and (2) phobia from the Greek φόβος, Phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear". Weinberg is credited as the first person to have used the term in speech.

    Again, the concept is ancient, the word is over 45 years old.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    No you are endorsing bigotry, that is clear and indisputable, that you may be embarrassed by it and wish to cloak it is not surprising.
    No, I'm not endorsing people discriminate against anyone. Provide prove of your claim that I endorsed discrimination or stop making it.

    Tell me though, do pro-choice people like yourself endorse abortion? I look forward to your answer and the hypocrisy it will detail.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    If you have to ask you wold never understand, but may I suggest that next time you need surgery seek out a blind surgeon.
    That's nice, but the ADA is on the books and you must restructure the workplace to accomodate workers with disabilities. Believe it of not, being short actually qualifies (though being tall doesn't for some reason). I've seen businesses have to redo their countertop height.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    "Homophobia" is a recent term added by popular culture. An attempt has been made of late to shoehorn it into an actual medical condition, but to this day it does not appear in the DSM or any international list of phobias.



    Homophobia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Exactly. It's not a phobia nor is it recognized as one. It's all just bull**** by people that need something to use to attack their opponents.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So they can refuse to hire the disabled? Who is bigotted now.
    Yes, if you can not manage the prerequisites of a job, you cannot take on that job either physically or mentally.

    Now. if you're mentally capable of handling the duties required of your position - that is certainly an ample demonstration for litigation.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You don't read the articles you cite, it was not "recent" nor was "added by pop culture".

    Although sexual attitudes tracing back to Ancient Greece (8th to 6th centuries BC to the end of antiquity (ca. 600 AD)) have been termed homophobia by scholars, the term itself is relatively new.[11] Coined by George Weinberg, a psychologist, in the 1960s,[12] the term homophobia is a blend[13][14][15] of (1) the word homosexual, itself a mix of neo-classical morphemes, and (2) phobia from the Greek φόβος, Phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear". Weinberg is credited as the first person to have used the term in speech.

    Again, the concept is ancient, the word is over 45 years old.
    That has NOTHING to do with law.

    Funny part is that homosexuality was a mental disorder and now that many nations let people live off the dole for having mental disorders - it's quite popular now to classify homosexuality as a mental disorder - you know so gays can get subsidies from their European countries that for some odd reason now believe it's a mental disorder.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You don't read the articles you cite, it was not "recent" nor was "added by pop culture".

    Although sexual attitudes tracing back to Ancient Greece (8th to 6th centuries BC to the end of antiquity (ca. 600 AD)) have been termed homophobia by scholars, the term itself is relatively new.[11] Coined by George Weinberg, a psychologist, in the 1960s,[12] the term homophobia is a blend[13][14][15] of (1) the word homosexual, itself a mix of neo-classical morphemes, and (2) phobia from the Greek φόβος, Phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear". Weinberg is credited as the first person to have used the term in speech.

    Again, the concept is ancient, the word is over 45 years old.
    That's recent generation and the source is indeed pop culture. The word means nothing clinically and again is not listed ANYWHERE professionally as a medical condition.

    The word homophobia first appeared in print in an article written for the May 23, 1969, edition of the American pornographic magazine Screw, in which the word was used to refer to heterosexual men's fear that others might think they are gay

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

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    As a grunt infantryman, my liberal father landed at Normandy and fought in the Battle of the Bulge to protect your freedom to exercise your extremist views and spew your nonsense.

    Speaking of experience, it appears you skipped 6th grade English. There really is a difference between to, too and two. Not to worry, there is even a website that was created for you.

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