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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    You're confused. They are allowed to refuse service to anybody they want, unless it is solely due to a person's race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. The reason that matters is because the lack of such laws was an integral part of the systematic discrimination of black Americans (among other now-protected classes of Americans). It happened to my Jewish ancestors, so I understand what happens when you don't have such laws. One of my ancestors died because he was Jewish, or if you want to be technical, his life would have been saved by the doctor had he not been Jewish.

    That's kind of a big deal, actually. You don't really have any idea what you're actually endorsing.
    its easier to reword things in a obviously inaccurate and sometimes dishonest way when theres no logical and factual approach one likes.

    you are 100% correct the conversation is not about denying service and never will be, its a failed starwman that nobody educated and honest fails for lol
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by trollarc View Post
    How can you tell if somebody is gay without watching them have sex?
    • When he comes in holding his husbands hand;
    • When they're romantically affectionate to each-other;
    • When in an unrelated conversation a woman mentions her wife or a man mentions his husband;
    • When your child's friend from school comes over and makes an innocent comment about what he and his moms did last weekend.


    ...I mean, seriously, this is how you tell if someone's straight without watching them have sex.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    The proposed law is certainly an attempt at proving it.
    I'm not sure you understand how you prove a phobia exists.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    • When he comes in holding his husbands hand;
    • When they're romantically affectionate to each-other;
    • When in an unrelated conversation a woman mentions her wife or a man mentions his husband;
    • When their kid makes an innocent comment about what he and him moms did last weekend.


    ...I mean, seriously, this is how you tell if someone's straight without watching them have sex.
    This gave me a good giggle at the end but I completely agree.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Why you progressives keep calling this bill "anti-gay" when it's not? PC reasons, sympathy?
    Gotta love the right wing nut jobs who are trying to polish a turd.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    You need to move to AZ. You'd fit right in.
    It has nothing to do with me, but with the nonexistence of homophobia. You can't prove it actually exists, so you can either stop using the term or be wrong every time you do. Whatever you decide to do is fine with me.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Why you progressives keep calling this bill "anti-gay" when it's not?
    Because legislators who voted for the bill and who defend the bill have said so. But the bill does go beyond that so that it would allow primarily Christian extremists who lobbied for and help write the bill to discriminate against other groups as well such as Jews and other non-Christians, Roman Catholics, Muslims, atheists and ANY group their narrow minds consider to be unsaved and "anti-Christian." That is the purpose of the bill though the major stated focus is sexual orientation. Understanding the group behind the bill that should be no surprise.










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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Iso you can either stop using the term or be wrong every time you do.
    Homophobia, shomophobia. You want this argument to be about semantics. Bottom line is, this bill will allow for the random discrimination against people based upon religious beliefs. Oddly enough those same beliefs are often based on a book of fairy tales. Hardly a way to run a decent society.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Homophobia, shomophobia.
    Nope, doesn't exist. You're just talking about propaganda and unproven idiocy.

    You want this argument to be about semantics. Bottom line is, this bill will allow for the random discrimination of people based upon religious beliefs that are often based on a book of fairy tales. Hardly a way to run a decent society.
    I see nothing wrong with it.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm not sure you understand how you prove a phobia exists.
    If the Arizona legislature attempts to make it legal to discriminate against a persons religion, race, disability, sexual orientation or political affiliation it is a phobia.










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